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Ikea Latex Matresses 13 Apr 2014 22:51 #61

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Hi sdmark,

Thanks once again for providing so many details about their new mattresses. It's interesting that they have several new options that aren't listed and I hope they add the additional options and some of the missing information to their site.

I also noticed that the Morgedal seems to be a single layer of polyfoam which would likely be the 2.2 lb foam and the lower density 1.7 lb polyfoam is probably in the cover.

It's interesting to me as well that the latex versions of both the Matrand and the Myrbacka have considerably thicker layers of latex and thinner layers of polyfoam than the memory foam versions. It's also too bad that their memory foam versions use such low density memory foam (3.1 lbs).

I also made a strange discovery on their site. If you go to the default page for the Matrand here it describes the memory foam option and has twin size as the default size. If you change the size to any of the others (full, queen, or king) it describes the latex version. Neither one shows the layer thickness so it's great that you went to the trouble of measuring them for the benefit of the forum members here.

I've added a link to your pictures and to your comments in this thread to the Ikea post here .

I appreciate all your efforts :).

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Ikea Latex Matresses 14 Apr 2014 09:30 #62

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It's interesting that they have several new options that aren't listed and I hope they add the additional options and some of the missing information to their site. ... I also made a strange discovery on their site. ...

Yes it seems the webmaster has some catching up to do. If you search for an unlisted item using the exact part number from the picture (e.g. Matrand Memory Foam in Full 102.723.97), it says the search function isn't working. Strange.

I also noticed that the Morgedal seems to be a single layer of polyfoam which would likely be the 2.2 lb foam and the lower density 1.7 lb polyfoam is probably in the cover.

There are two layers but because they are glued together where they are solid, the dividing line is difficult to see. I've added a closeup photo.

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Ikea Latex Matresses 14 Apr 2014 13:30 #63

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Hi sdmark,

There are two layers but because they are glued together where they are solid, the dividing line is difficult to see. I've added a closeup photo.


That clarifies the description and I can see the dividing line between the two polyfoam layers in the closeup now. Thanks once again :).

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Ikea Latex Matresses 16 Apr 2014 09:25 #64

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Added a couple more pictures showing two of the samples unzipped. Interesting to see the zoning on the Morgongava.

Talked to the Mountain Top sales rep. He confirmed that they make Ikea's latex. He thinks they are all C3. He agreed that the 85% natural feels more spongy or springy than the synthetic. The natural is denser because they put more more material into it, though it tests in the same ILD range as the synthetic. The ILD of the synthetic is controlled more by chemical process during manufacturing .

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Ikea Latex Matresses 16 Apr 2014 10:33 #65

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Hi sdmark,

The natural is denser because they put more more material into it, though it tests in the same ILD range as the synthetic.


This is also because natural rubber is denser than synthetic rubber (has a higher weight per volume of material) so synthetic latex would be less dense than natural latex in the same ILD.

Thanks ... once again ... for the great pictures. The 7 zones in the Morgongava are their standard zoning pattern and are the same as two toppers I have from Mountaintop.

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Ikea Latex Matresses 19 Apr 2014 08:46 #66

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The 7 zones in the Morgongava are their standard zoning pattern and are the same as two toppers I have from Mountaintop


Not to sidetrack the Ikea thread but I was going to ask where to source toppers made from Mountain Top continuous pour Dunlop, but then I found post #7 here . Spindle is the sole source?

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Ikea Latex Matresses 19 Apr 2014 09:48 #67

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Hi sdmark,

There are probably more sources (such as Nest Bedding here ) but Spindle is the most reasonably priced I'm aware of.

My toppers were samples that were given to me by a friend of mine that was looking at them so I could see what they were like.

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Ikea Latex Matresses 17 Jun 2014 01:23 #68

Added a couple more pictures showing two of the samples unzipped. Interesting to see the zoning on the Morgongava.

Talked to the Mountain Top sales rep. He confirmed that they make Ikea's latex. He thinks they are all C3. He agreed that the 85% natural feels more spongy or springy than the synthetic. The natural is denser because they put more more material into it, though it tests in the same ILD range as the synthetic. The ILD of the synthetic is controlled more by chemical process during manufacturing .

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Wow that cool, so are these Ikea zoned to be softer for your shoulders and firmer for the hips? What does C3 mean?

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Ikea Latex Matresses 17 Jun 2014 02:08 #69

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Hi WadeB,

What does C3 mean?


C3 is a firmness rating. Mountaintop uses a firmness scale that ranges from C0 to C5.

You can see the ILD range for each of their ratings here ...




The C5 isn't on this list and it's 33.5 - 37.5 ILD.

I would be cautious though if you are comparing their ILD ratings to other types or blends of latex that you are familiar with because they may not match very well and there are also other factors besides just ILD that will determine how soft or firm a material "feels" when you lie on it (see post #4 here ). The best way to assess how soft or firm a material (or a mattress) feels for you would be based on personal experience.

Wow that cool, so are these Ikea zoned to be softer for your shoulders and firmer for the hips?


They have 7 zones and if you look at sdmark's last picture here you will see sections of the latex that have smaller pincores and sections that have larger pincores. The larger holes are the softer sections and the smaller holes are the firmer sections. The shoulder zone (second zone from either end) is the softest and the middle zone under the pelvis would be the firmest.

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Ikea Latex Matresses 21 Jun 2014 00:12 #70

Hi sdmark,

The natural is denser because they put more more material into it, though it tests in the same ILD range as the synthetic.


This is also because natural rubber is denser than synthetic rubber (has a higher weight per volume of material) so synthetic latex would be less dense than natural latex in the same ILD.

Thanks ... once again ... for the great pictures. The 7 zones in the Morgongava are their standard zoning pattern and are the same as two toppers I have from Mountaintop.

Phoenix


Can you give us some feed back on your Mountaintop toppers? Do you know what firmness it is?

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