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Re: Serta Icomfort vs Sealy Memoryworks 24 Feb 2012 19:28 #16

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I am in Cleveland, Ohio

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Re: Serta Icomfort vs Sealy Memoryworks 24 Feb 2012 22:07 #17

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Hi Immortal216,

I think post #2 here may help you a bit (although you've already discovered OMF) :)

Once you've tested the mattresses at OMF, then a couple of phone calls asking if the others have anything which is similar to any mattress you liked at OMF (who will give you the exact specs of their mattresses) will help you decide if the two that are further away are worth the drive. Just make sure that you ask the most important question ... "Can you tell me the specifics of each layer in the mattress?" and "how much is it in ___ size?" so that you can make sure that what you are considering doesn't include layers that aren't disclosed and that the value is in a comparable range. If you actually go there and you want to know for certain that there is no unknown polyfoam in a mattress you are considering, then looking at the law tag will also tell you whether there are any polyfoam layers (listed by percentage weight not thickness or the order of the layering) that you may not be told about.

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Re: Serta Icomfort vs Sealy Memoryworks 25 Mar 2012 02:35 #18

Can you recommend any manufacturers in the Atlanta area? I find myself comparing different brands from Sams, Costco, te Macys/Memoryworks but many of the "brands" I cannot find a place to go lie on one.

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Re: Serta Icomfort vs Sealy Memoryworks 25 Mar 2012 03:15 #19

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Hi wave,

The most important part of mattress shopping is to pay little attention to brands and to look at the materials in every mattress you are considering. Most of the brands you are considering don't list the type and quality of the materials in their mattress and without this ... you can end up buying a "cheap" mattress that can end up being very expensive.

Most of these online outlets have little knowledge or the materials in their mattresses which means that what they don't know ... you will need to know which involves a lot more research to avoid a mattress that "sounds good" but can easily end up being a poor choice because of low quality materials that won't last.

There is a list of guidelines here that can help you avoid most of the traps and pitfalls of mattress shopping and will help you put your energy into outlets (mostly factory direct manufacturers or smaller outlets that carry alternative or local brands) that have the skills and knowledge to help you make the best selection at better prices that are usually available at the larger outlets that sell major brands with "unknown" materials inside them.

Online shopping can be great if there is not a lot of local quality and value available but only if you can find out the exact construction of the mattress you are looking at and the outlet has a good refund policy or exchange policy to make up for any mistakes. Either they or you also need to have the knowledge and skills to know exactly what type of mattress would best fit your needs and preferences.

You have some very good choices available to you and it's unlikely that online shopping would be your best option though. Post #2 here includes some of the better choices in the Atlanta area.

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Re: Serta Icomfort vs Sealy Memoryworks 25 Mar 2012 17:46 #20

Thanks for the quick response! My wife and I sleep on an 8" Tempurpedic (back from the days of only being 2 options - the 8" & 10"). We love the mattress yet have no idea what is in it regardless of all the searching. The mattress we are searching for is for a full size for our 3 year old daughter who is transitioning from a crib converted bed.

I have read extensively on this and other sites regarding the types of beds, the materials used etc and although I know this isn't quite your cup of tea, we've decided up to now that we like the feel of the memory foam and tend to like to like the mattresses with a 3lb or 4lb layer - we found the 5lb a bit rigid and given it's for a child and occasional adult, we're not sure its necessary. Do you have any particular thoughts on the specs/quality of a mattress for a younger one who will likely not exceed 120lbs until after 18? (given family history)...

What I've struggled with is that certain brands (i.e. the Memoryworks @ Macys) are poor quality and clearly overpriced. We've looked into Ikea in detail with the help of your post and a detailed report at another mattress site and have ruled them out. While I had hoped to like the latex, it just seemed too firm but that seems very specific to the mattress @ ikea. I have had trouble finding latex affordable but am looking.

We had narrowed into Aerus/Foamex (Sams Club/Amazon), Night Therapy (Sams), Novaform (Costco/Amazon), and Spa Sensations (Walmart). This may change as I look in more detail and particularly thanks for the reference to the atlanta mfg cos.

I clearly have more research to do but am trying to follow your process, gauge what we we like, and make a decision before my wife kills me. If you have any particular thoughts for sub $500 range, kids mattress, based on my wife liking the feel of the 8" memoryworks (yes I know...) mattress, I'd appreciate it. Otherwise I'm pursuing the path but may be forced into a decision soon before she kills me.

Thanks again for all the help!

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Re: Serta Icomfort vs Sealy Memoryworks 25 Mar 2012 19:44 #21

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Hi wave,

I personally would tend to avoid memory foam with a younger child whose immune system is still developing. This is because even though it may be regarded as "safe" for a child (if it meets the CertiPur or Oeko-Tex or other standards) ... I still don't believe it is a good idea to take the chance of exposing a child to the ingredients in all memory foams until they are much older (see post #2 here ).

In addition to this ... children spend more time on a mattress, have a much more flexible spine that is less curvy than an adult, and they need to be better supported than an adult by the surface layers. They also do better with more freedom of movement than even more responsive memory foam can provide. Finally ... the microclimate of a memory foam mattress is not as breathable and temperature controlling as other more breathable materials and I believe that children need every advantage we can give them while they are sleeping, growing, and developing. This is in addition to any fire retardency materials that may be added to memory foam or a mattress.

So while I understand the desire to give a child a more soft and cushy mattress ... it is not a good idea IMO to use memory foam until they are much older. I would focus on more natural materials that provide more of what she really needs, even over what she may prefer, and which has much less risk over the longer term. Kids often prefer things that are not their best choices ... and I really would focus on healthier materials and construction.

In a full size mattress ... I would suggest that if you possibly can that you consider a slightly higher budget that would make it possible to go with either a more natural material like a single 6" core of Dunlop latex with a wool quilted ticking or an innerspring with natural fibers or latex. If this is not possible ... then at least a higher quality polyfoam mattress or polyfoam/innerspring mattress would be more suitable than memory foam (although the polyfoam still isn't as healthy as more natural alternatives and comes with the risk of additives that wouldn't be in more natural materials).

If you are OK with a twin size ... then something like this may be ideal.

www.ikea.com/us/en/catalog/products/30272117/ is a little over your budget but would also make a good full size choice. Something like this may work as well but is also over your budget in full size.

Mattresses that are similar to these may be available from some of the manufacturers on the Atlanta list and even for a child's bed they would be good sources to talk with over the phone.

Some polyfoam/latex hybrid choices that would be worth considering include ...

www.amazon.com/gp/browse.html?ie=UTF8&marketplaceID=ATVPDKIKX0DER&me=APCUWEOU23BHI

www.latexmattresscompany.com/budget-priced-latex-mattresses-1/

www.mattresses.net/eco-sleep-promotional-latex-mattress-w-bamboo-cover.html

A futon that used healthy materials would also be a good choice and post #2 here includes some good options that use the same materials as a "non futon" mattress except in thinner layers and may be worth considering.

Google searches on terms like "healthy child's mattress" will bring up a lot of choices but it will take some research to find something that is both healthy and inside your budget range in a full size as higher quality materials like wool, cotton, and latex can be more expensive.

But the first place I would look is the local manufacturers on the list.

Hope this helps ... and as I come across more options in your price range I will add them here.

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Re: Serta Icomfort vs Sealy Memoryworks 26 Mar 2012 00:28 #22

This is an enormous help and you've changed my mind outright. We'll be searching locally for a latex mattress and if unable to find one that meets the budget, we'll revert to an innerspring. I expect we'll simply expand the budget as needed - a full size mattress is necessary because we are inheriting a bedroom set so we save a bit there, we spend a bit more on the mattress. C'est la vie.

I had already looked at innerspring/poly combos at the original mattress factory (regional chain) and liked what I saw there but I will review the other local providers and find one that makes sense. Will report back on the experience, mattress feel, etc.

Thank you.

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Re: Serta Icomfort vs Sealy Memoryworks 26 Mar 2012 01:00 #23

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Hi Wave,

This is an enormous help and you've changed my mind outright.


I'm happy to hear this ... it's a subject I feel fairly strongly about :)

One of the advantages too of a good 6" latex core is that it is incredible durable and as a child get older and larger into adolescence and the teenage years ... it is a great base for a topper to add any additional comfort as needed for a chaging body shape. A good innerspring with natural fibers has a similar benefit.

One more to add which is the Pure Echo collection made by one of our manufacturing members ...

www.mygreenmattress.com

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Re: Serta Icomfort vs Sealy Memoryworks 29 May 2012 12:33 #24

We just bought an IComfort and love it but it is brand new and wearout is a factor seeing as I watch tv in bed and sweat at night when I sleep. How does this compare to a Tempurepedic with respect to wearing out?

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Re: Serta Icomfort vs Sealy Memoryworks 29 May 2012 13:04 #25

How long have you had the Tempurepedic and do you find there has been any degradation in the foam?

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Re: Serta Icomfort vs Sealy Memoryworks 30 May 2012 03:46 #26

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Hi ruthsm,

We just bought an IComfort and love it but it is brand new and wearout is a factor seeing as I watch tv in bed and sweat at night when I sleep. How does this compare to a Tempurepedic with respect to wearing out?


I believe that the tempurpedics would be more durable than the iComfort lineup which uses gel beads infused in their memory foam. There's more about comparisons between the two in post #2 here .

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Re: Serta Icomfort vs Sealy Memoryworks 22 Aug 2012 21:15 #27

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Hey Phoenix,
I am 5'10" and 160 lbs. I sleep on my side and I have lower back pain while sleeping. I went to the showroom and laid on a few mattresses and I was looking for a medium firm bed. I came across the icomfort savant but that was way to plush and I didn't like the feeling of sinking in. Next to it i found the genius which i found more accommodating to my body. Would you recommend this bed or the insight for my body specs. thanks!

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Re: Serta Icomfort vs Sealy Memoryworks 23 Aug 2012 01:28 #28

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Hi thatsdopefoo,

I personally wouldn't recommend the iComfort line for anyone regardless of their stats. Some of their specs and my thoughts about them are in post #11 here .

This article may also help you to avoid most of the worst choices when you are mattress shopping.

When you are first starting to look for a mattress ... it can be much more important to research and find better outlets (along the lines of this article ) than to spend time initially looking for a mattress. This is because if you end up buying from a typical chain store or mass market outlet or looking at major brands ... you won't be able to find out the information you need to know whether your choices are good ones or make meaningful comparisons with other mattresses. At the better outlets or factory direct manufacturers most of your choices will be good value. At the ones that advertise the most ... most of your choices will be lower quality and value ... or worse yet you won't even be able to find out what the quality really is.

If you let me know the city or zip where you live ... I'd be happy to let you know about any of the better outlets I'm aware of in your area..

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Re: Serta Icomfort vs Sealy Memoryworks 23 Aug 2012 06:00 #29

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Hey Phoenix,
Thanks for your honest input. I live in Rancho Cucamonga, CA. 91739. I looked at the icomfort because of the new cool gel memory foam they were advertising as well. I have slept on other memory foam mattresses and they were too warm/hot for me. Do you recommend any other types of mattresses that are cool?

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Re: Serta Icomfort vs Sealy Memoryworks 23 Aug 2012 07:08 #30

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Hi thatsdopefoo,

There are many combinations of materials, components, and different types of foam that can help a mattress to sleep cooler. Some of the many "variables" that are part of a mattress or bedding that are involved in sleeping cool are in post #2 here .

For those who like the feel of memory foam over other faster response and cooler types of foam ... some of the ways that memory foams are being made cooler are in post #6 here .

There are also 3 main cooling mechanisms that different cooling technologies rely on and they are mentioned in the last part of post #4 here . Most of the current advertising is promoting the cooling benefits of various gel materials ... either phase change or thermal conductive .... but of the three types of cooling methods ... I believe that ventilation and microclimate/humidity control which allows the natural cooling processes of the body work more effectively are the most important.

All of this together means that temperature/humidity control and sleeping microclimate are the result of a combination of factors and that by using one or more of these either in the mattress itself or as an add on afterwards (mattress protector, bedding, or various types of mattress pads or toppers) most mattresses types can be made cool enough for most people.

There is a list of some of the better options in and around the Greater Los Angeles area in post #2 here which would also include the closest factory direct manufacturers to the Rancho Cucamonga area.

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