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Latex Mattress 12 Feb 2014 10:10 #61

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Hi art,

Just in case you haven't read it yet ... the first place I would start is the tutorial post here which has all the basic information, steps, and guidelines that can help you make the best possible choices ... and know how to avoid the worst ones.

What density and thickness should I consider for both sides?


If you are ordering locally then your personal testing using the testing guidelines would be the best way to decide. With careful and objective testing your body will tell you more than any "theory at a distance" about which mattress is the best match for you in terms of PPP. If you are making an online purchase, then more detailed conversations with the manufacturer or retailer on the phone would be the best way to choose. They know more about their mattresses and the specific options they offer and which of them would have the best chance of success based on the information you provide them and the "averages" of their customers than anyone else (see mattress firmness/comfort levels in post #2 here ).

Should I also consider different density for shoulder, hip and feet areas?


While it's usually not necessary with latex because of the way it compresses and responds ... with body types that are more "challenging" because of a more athletic or curvy body (wider shoulders or wider hips for example) or weight distributions that are not as evenly proportioned it can certainly be useful and would be well worth considering. For example it can allow for the use of softer foam with more give under the shoulders and firmer foam under the heavier pelvis. The key with zoning is that the zoning scheme is a good match for your body type and weight distribution. There is more about zoning in this article and in post #11 here .

I live in San Diego area and only found one dealer who has latex beds from Savvy Rest and Sharper Image (coil core and latex top) which I tested, are there others locally which I can test or purchase from.


The better options and possibilities I'm aware of in the San Diego area are listed in post #2 here . You have some good options available :)

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Latex Mattress 12 Feb 2014 15:56 #62

Phoenix- thanks very much this is helpful :)

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Re: Latex Mattress 27 Feb 2014 10:08 #63

Thank you for all the great information. I am currently looking for latex or foam/ latex hybird. Has anyone had the BB aloe alexis 14" for long term, and do you reccomend it?

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Re: Latex Mattress 27 Feb 2014 10:47 #64

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Hi dbl006,

Thank you for all the great information. I am currently looking for latex or foam/ latex hybird. Has anyone had the BB aloe alexis 14" for long term, and do you reccomend it?


I don't have any personal experience with it but the Alexis has only been available for less than about two years so there would not be any "long term" reviews available of the specific mattress. Latex has been used for decades though and is the most durable type of foam in the industry regardless of which manufacturer uses it in their mattress and the materials in a mattress are the most effective way to assess the durability of a mattress.

Brooklyn Bedding is one of the members here and competes well with the best in the industry and they would certainly be one of the manufacturers I would recommend dealing with in terms of their quality, value, and service.

As far as a specific mattress choice though ... I would be VERY cautious about using other people's suggestions or reviews as a way to make your own choice (see post #13 here about mattress reviews) because their experience may be very different from yours in terms of PPP (see mattress firmness/comfort levels in post #2 here ). A certain mattress design or comfort choice that is "perfect" for one person may be completely unsuitable for someone else to sleep on regardless of the quality, value, or durability of the mattress. One of the benefits of the Alexis outside of the quality of the materials is that it has two layers of latex which can be individually customized at the time you purchase it (based on your more detailed conversations with Brooklyn Bedding) and if necessary after you sleep on it (with a layer exchange) so it provides many options in a single mattress.

A forum search on " Alexis " (you can just click this) will bring up many more comments and feedback about it.

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Re: Latex Mattress 27 Feb 2014 16:00 #65

Thanks phoenix, good words to remember. I have been looking for a mattress for weeks and have really liked the idea of having both HD foam and latex. I have been looking on this site for weeks and doing a lot of bed testing at several local stores. Having all of the reviews of the different online sites you provided was very helpful. My husband and I decided going with Brooklyn bedding. We went with the Aloe Alexis split cal king, one side ultra plush and the other medium plush. Mario Sevilla from BB was excellent to work with. I was able to get and additional $200 of each mattress plus 2 pillows. After doing a lot of pricing I feel I received a great deal. Thanks also for the recommendation to adjustablebeds.org. I purchased the Reverie deluxe. I am very excited for my purchases to come. I will update everyone when everything comes and I get my first good night of sleep in years.

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Re: Latex Mattress 27 Feb 2014 18:09 #66

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Hi dbl006,

Congratulations on your new mattress ... and adjustable bed :)

I think you made great choices in terms of quality/value and I'm looking forward to your feedback once you've had the chance to sleep on them.

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Latex Mattress 14 Apr 2014 05:09 #67

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Hi Phoenix,

I am shopping for a latex mattress and I am quite confused!! I am a side/back sleeper looking for a good quality mattress. There are so many places to buy from I am just lost. Is it worth it to go all natural? Also, by chance would there be any good places near the Raleigh, Durham area of North Carolina to buy a latex mattress from?

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Latex Mattress 14 Apr 2014 12:26 #68

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Hi 1fasttvx,

Is it worth it to go all natural?


That really depends on which type of latex you are looking at and your preferences and on the criteria that are most important to you for performance, "feel", budget, or personal reasons. Post #6 here has more about the different types of latex which along with your own personal testing and experience may be helpful in deciding which type of latex you prefer.

Also, by chance would there be any good places near the Raleigh, Durham area of North Carolina to buy a latex mattress from?


The better options and possibilities I'm aware of in the Raleigh/Durham area are listed in post #6 here . There are certainly some good options to test and become familiar with different types of latex mattresses but where you end up buying from will depend on which of your options (either local or online) you are most comfortable with and are the best match for the parts of your personal value equation that are most important to you.

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Latex Mattress 15 Apr 2014 04:21 #69

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Great info Phoenix, I will check them out.

Thanks,

John

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Latex Mattress 16 Apr 2014 17:26 #70

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Phoenix,

I went to look at the latex mattress at the Original Mattress Factory. I like the feel of the mattress, but after checking the construction it uses a foam core. I am guessing that is a way to produce the mattress at a lower cost? I also checked out the Savvy Rest Serenity mattress and I liked the feel of them also, but as you know the price is up there. Right now I am really leaning towards the Brooklyn Bedding 10" Total Latex. Do you think that would be a good choice price and construction wise?

Thank you!!

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Latex Mattress 16 Apr 2014 23:03 #71

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Hi 1fastvx,

You can see some of my thoughts about the OMF Serenity latex mattress (and some comparisons with some of the Brooklyn Bedding mattresses including the Total Latex Mattress) in post #2 here and post #2 here and post #3 here .

I also checked out the Savvy Rest Serenity mattress and I liked the feel of them also, but as you know the price is up there.


Yes ... they are good quality mattresses and I would choose them over most mainstream mattresses in a similar budget range but as you know there are also other similar component latex mattresses available that use the same or similar materials and layers in lower budget ranges.

Right now I am really leaning towards the Brooklyn Bedding 10" Total Latex. Do you think that would be a good choice price and construction wise?


They are one of the members of this site which means I think highly of them yes and they compete well with the best in the industry . I certainly wouldn't hesitate to purchase any of their mattresses that I thought was suitable for me in terms of PPP and the parts of my personal value equation that were most important to me.

Of course when you can't test a mattress in person them it's also important to have a more detailed conversation with any online retailer or manufacturer so you can choose the layer and firmness options that have the highest chance of success (see mattress firmness/comfort levels in post #2 here ).

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Latex Mattress 04 Jan 2015 11:57 #72

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Hi Phoenix,

I have learned so much on your site. Because of the huge investment, I'm so afraid to make a mistake and get the wrong mattress. Because of this, we've put off buying a mattress for about 3 years too long.

I live in Montana, so our latex choices are really limited locally. We did drive to Denver Mattress in Billings (110 miles) and try their iChoice. I liked it without the topper but only laid on it about a half an hour with the topper and a half hour without. I have developed bursitis in both hips, and I think our sagging innerspring mattress is the cause. When I sleep in hotel beds, I don't develop the same pain, which hits about 3 am at home. I particularly like the mattresses at Woolley's Classic Suites in Denver, but I don't want to go with springs again. They say their mattresses are Beautyrest Black Label custom-made for them, but no one knew what comfort level number they were.

The iChoice bed's link is: denvermattress.furniturerow.com/dmc/iChoice-Latex-Group/iChoice-Latex/prod1140025//#.VKmE7Cf9nq0. As you can see, it's not 100% latex, so I've been looking at SleepEZ's beds, starting with the Roma. I'm wondering what you recommend based on the two other mattresses I liked. I haven't called them yet to find out the ILD #s on their different layers. We have added a 2.5" Talalay topper to our current bed along with a Cuddlebed topper and a quilt under the sagging part of the mattress. That has helped but not enough. However, we can use these toppers on our new mattress as well. I'm worried about getting something too firm that will bother my pressure points, but I'm worried about getting something too soft since I hear that latex softens over time, and sinking too far into the mattress also sets off my bursitis.

We laid on the Dr. Breus Monogram mattress, but I couldn't really feel a difference on that one. Of course, I tried it early in the morning when my bursitis was already hurting pretty badly. I believe that's also not 100% latex. I have not been able to find 100% mattresses in either Billings or Bozeman.

So budget-wise we're looking at three on SleepEZ.com: the Roma, the Naturalé 9", and the 8" Special Latex Mattress with 3 layers. If we go with that, I'm not sure what firmness levels to choose for each layer since I am no where near Tempe and can't try them out. I'm hoping you can make some suggestions.

And unfortunately, we do need a new foundation, too. Are all wooden foundations the same? We can buy one locally for $120 versus SleepEz's $275, and the store says it would support a latex mattress, but the saleswoman couldn't tell me the size or spacing of the slats inside.

One more question about warranties. I believe most warranties requires a sag of a certain amount (ie. 2.5") to replace the mattress, but I've heard that latex doesn't actually sag; it softens in the area where you lie, so are latex warranties different, or are they pointless?

Thanks so much for any information you can give me. We have been looking forever, and with my bursitis, I want to get a new mattress this month.

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Latex Mattress 04 Jan 2015 14:09 #73

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Hi Range Girl,

Just in case you haven't read it yet ... the first place I would start your research is the mattress shopping tutorial here which has all the basic information, steps, and guidelines that you will need to make the best possible choice ... and know how and why to avoid the worst ones.

When I sleep in hotel beds, I don't develop the same pain, which hits about 3 am at home. I particularly like the mattresses at Woolley's Classic Suites in Denver, but I don't want to go with springs again. They say their mattresses are Beautyrest Black Label custom-made for them, but no one knew what comfort level number they were.


You can read more comments about hotel beds in post #3 here . I would generally avoid them or any of the major brand mattresses that may be similar (see the guidelines here ).

I would also be aware that the weakest link in most innerspring mattresses are lower quality materials used in the comfort layers and not the innerspring itself which is generally a durable component. An innerspring mattress that uses high quality comfort layers can be a very durable choice.

I'm wondering what you recommend based on the two other mattresses I liked. I haven't called them yet to find out the ILD #s on their different layers.


I don't make specific mattress suggestions because there are too many unknowns, variables, and personal preferences involved for anyone to make specific suggestions for someone else based on specs (either yours or a mattress) or "theory at a distance". If you are considering an online choice that you can't test in person before a purchase then the most reliable source of guidance will always be the retailer or manufacturer themselves (see mattress firmness/comfort levels in post #2 here ).

So budget-wise we're looking at three on SleepEZ.com: the Roma, the Naturalé 9", and the 8" Special Latex Mattress with 3 layers. If we go with that, I'm not sure what firmness levels to choose for each layer since I am no where near Tempe and can't try them out. I'm hoping you can make some suggestions.

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There is more about the most important parts of the "value" of a mattress purchase in post #13 here that can help you make more meaningful comparisons between mattresses.

I can only speak to the quality of the materials in a mattress and help you identify any weak links in their design and all of the mattresses you mentioned here use high quality and durable materials and there are no weak links in any of them.

And unfortunately, we do need a new foundation, too. Are all wooden foundations the same? We can buy one locally for $120 versus SleepEz's $275, and the store says it would support a latex mattress, but the saleswoman couldn't tell me the size or spacing of the slats inside.


No they all aren't the same at all. There is more about the types of foundations that are suitable for different types of mattresses and some good sources for each of them in the foundation post here but the SleepEZ foundation is certainly a good choice for an all latex mattress and has gaps between the slats that are less than 3".

I have not been able to find 100% mattresses in either Billings or Bozeman.


I'm not sure where you are exactly but the some of the Montana options in post #5 here may be reasonably close to you.

One more question about warranties. I believe most warranties requires a sag of a certain amount (ie. 2.5") to replace the mattress, but I've heard that latex doesn't actually sag; it softens in the area where you lie, so are latex warranties different, or are they pointless?


Most warranties have a 1.5" exclusion (although some are more) but mattress warranties only cover visible impressions (as you mentioned) and not the gradual loss of comfort and support that happens with all mattresses over time and they have very little to nothing to do with the useful life of a mattress and how quickly you may need to replace it (see post #174 here ). They are more about marketing than anything else.

All foam materials including latex will soften or impress to some degree over time but latex is among the most durable materials in the industry so it will soften or impress less than other types of foam materials and will only do so over a longer period of time. There is more about the variables that can affect the durability and useful life of a mattress in post #4 here .

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Latex Mattress 04 Jan 2015 17:15 #74

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Thanks for the links and info. I had tried all the places you list for Montana except one, and no one has 100% latex. They are all combined with other foam layers. I ended up buying the 8" special from SleepEZ, and I am so relieved to finally have placed an order after several years of either not dealing with it or researching different mattresses. We've been in the middle of remodeling our house for years, so this has always take a backseat financially, and now I'm paying for it physically. Hopefully, this mattress with be worth the money. Fingers crossed.

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Latex Mattress 04 Jan 2015 18:01 #75

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Hi Range Girl,

I had tried all the places you list for Montana except one, and no one has 100% latex


It's unfortunate that you missed Mattress Mill in Bozeman which makes all latex mattresses but the good news is that you ended up making a great quality/value mattress purchase anyway!

Congratulations on your new mattress :)

I'm looking forward to your comments and feedback once you've received it.

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