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Frame for Brooklyn Bedding's #bestmattressever? 30 Aug 2015 21:34 #31

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Hi ronfla,

Thanks for the initial update and feedback ... I appreciate it :).

The delivery people probably appreciate the information and first hand experience you shared with them as well.

It's good to hear that your mattress seems to be a good match for both of you.

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Frame for Brooklyn Bedding's #bestmattressever? 01 Sep 2015 15:52 #32

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I have a question if you don't mind. Mario at BB sent us 2 Latex pillows but they're very firm which I find hard to use. Would anyone have any experience with medium latex / foam pillows in King size. I'm looking for a few suggestions if possible. I found a few on Amazon. It seems that conventional pillows tend to bunch up on one side so i'm looking around.

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Frame for Brooklyn Bedding's #bestmattressever? 01 Sep 2015 16:19 #33

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Hi ronfla,

Pillows are a very personal choice and different people will have very different pillow preferences (or different opinions about what they perceive as firm and soft) so I don't have any specific suggestions but some of the information in the pillow topic here and the posts it links to may be helpful.

If you or someone you know is good at sewing it may also be worth opening up your pillow and removing some of the shredded latex inside to make the pillow softer.

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Frame for Brooklyn Bedding's #bestmattressever? 01 Sep 2015 16:24 #34

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Frame for Brooklyn Bedding's #bestmattressever? 01 Sep 2015 17:01 #35

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I thought about that!

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Frame for Brooklyn Bedding's #bestmattressever? 16 Jan 2016 15:25 #36

Hi All - New member here. I am ready to pull the trigger on a foam mattress and have been researching wooden slat foundations, myself...Which is as much work researching a mattress!.

One brand mentioned somewhere on this site is the Natura, which is made in Canada. www.naturaworld.com/products/natura-universal-foundation-4/

I did not find any detailed information on their site about it, so I sent them an email after being unable to reach them by phone. I'll report back whatever I find.

The forum post I read about them mentioned it is available through Amazon, but they are out of stock with no future availability date given. I also researched the Classic Brands low Profile foundation, but found too many bad reviews.

I did recall SleepEZ recommends one, which you can find on their website. Talking to people I know who've purchased the SleepEZ mattress, I've heard nothing but good about their mattresses, so I am looking into their product as well.

The wood frame foundation is my current choice among the various options, for the new mattress I am pursuing.

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Frame for Brooklyn Bedding's #bestmattressever? 16 Jan 2016 17:48 #37

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Hi Jalan,

Hi All - New member here. I am ready to pull the trigger on a foam mattress and have been researching wooden slat foundations, myself...Which is as much work researching a mattress!.


There is more information about support systems (bedframes and foundations or platform beds) that are generally suitable for different types of mattresses and some examples of each of them in post #1 here .

Which type of support system would be "best" will depend on the specifics of the mattress but a mattress with a polyfoam support core will generally do best with a firm, flat, and evenly supportive support surface underneath it that has minimal to no flex under the mattress and for larger sizes with at least one center support beam that has good support to the floor to prevent any sagging in the middle of the mattress. The components need to be strong and durable enough to support the weight of the mattress and the people sleeping on it without any of the parts of the support system bending, sagging, or breaking over time. The support surface under the mattress should also have enough surface area to prevent the mattress from sagging through any gaps or spaces in the support surface over time but still allow some airflow under the mattress. I would suggest that the gaps between the slats are no more than about 5" (with 1 x 3 slats) although less than 4" would be better yet. Stiffer, stronger, and less flexible wood with a higher bending strength would also be better than softer or more flexible wood with a lower bending strength ( see here ).

If your mattress has a latex support core then I would look for gaps that are less than 3" between the slats.

The simplest way to choose a foundation would be to use the recommendations of the manufacturer or retailer that is selling the mattress you are purchasing but if you decide to do any additional research then I would also make sure that your support system meets the warranty criteria for your mattress as well because different manufacturers can have different criteria or exclusions for their warranty.

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Frame for Brooklyn Bedding's #bestmattressever? 16 Jan 2016 20:41 #38

Hi Phoenix,

The recommended foundation from the mattress company I am considering was the Classic Brands I mentioned, but I decided against it after reading reviews about the rough, splintering wood, and the splitting of slats during assembly.

My current bed frame does not have a center support beam, so I am looking at foundations which are a little more rigid. The mattress is I am considering is the Tuft & Needle 10" and has a firmness rating of 7 /10 which will suit me. I was delighted to recently read they were a member here; then equally disappointed to see they had dropped their membership. However, by that time I had concluded they were the right mattress for me. I'm sorry it worked out that way.

T&N recommends platform, inner box spring and wooden slat foundations, so I am confident I am on the right track, and pretty sure the frame recommended by SleepEZ will work well for me. It certainly has the proper spacing to support the mattress (2.75"), which the T & N said should be no more than 4".

Do you have any insight into the Natura World product? I probably won't hear back from them this weekend.

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Frame for Brooklyn Bedding's #bestmattressever? 16 Jan 2016 21:21 #39

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Hi Jalan,

Do you have any insight into the Natura World product? I probably won't hear back from them this weekend.


Based on the pictures i've seen it appears to have 12 slats and if they are 1x3 (which are actually 2.5" wide) then the gaps between the slats would be a little under 4". Having said that ... this may not be correct so they would be a more reliable source of information.

The mattress is I am considering is the Tuft & Needle 10" and has a firmness rating of 7 /10 which will suit me. I was delighted to recently read they were a member here; then equally disappointed to see they had dropped their membership. However, by that time I had concluded they were the right mattress for me. I'm sorry it worked out that way.


I would keep in mind that there are no "standard" definitions or consensus of opinions for firmness ratings (or firmness numbers) and different manufacturers can rate their mattresses very differently than others so a mattress that one manufacturer rates as being a specific firmness could be rated very differently by another manufacturer. Different people can also have very different perceptions of firmness and softness compared to others as well and a mattress that feels firm for one person can feel like "medium" for someone else or even "soft" for someone else (or vice versa) depending on their body type, sleeping style, physiology, their frame of reference based on what they are used to, and their individual sensitivity and perceptions. There are also different types of firmness and softness that different people may be sensitive to that can affect how they "rate" a mattress as well (see post #15 here ) so different people can also have very different opinions on how two mattresses compare in terms of firmness and some people may rate one mattress as being firmer than another and someone else may rate them the other way around. This is all relative and very subjective and is as much an art as a science.

Having said that ... based on most of the feedback that I've seen the Tuft & Needle feels firmer to most people than most of the other "simplified choice" mattresses (or the medium firmness option for the ones that have multiple firmness choices).

Assuming that you decide to pull the trigger on the Tuft & Needle ... congratulations on your new mattress :)

I'm looking forward to your comments and feedback when you receive it and have had the chance to sleep on it for a bit.

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Frame for Brooklyn Bedding's #bestmattressever? 20 Jan 2016 06:02 #40

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Hi david_a,

After some more experimentation I think it was actually not providing enough support; i.e. too soft. I should have paid a bit more attention to my bed frame - it's the flexible slat type, which is clearly not intended for these types of mattresses. With the mattress on the frame it actually felt way too hard (I guess the give of the slats was robbing a lot of the cushioning from the support layers). Directly on the floor the mattress is noticeably more comfortable but it still doesn't work that well for me. Sleeping on my back is "OK" but side or stomach sleeping is uncomfortable. However it's still better than my old atrociously worn out mattress so I'll be sleeping on it until they come pick it up Friday :P


Thanks for the update ... and I'm sorry to hear that your mattress didn't work out for you as well as you hoped for but the good news is that you had the foresight to purchase a mattress that has a great return policy so there was little risk in trying it (outside of the time you spent sleeping on it and returning it).

I would also agree that part of the problem could have been the support system under your mattress because most foam mattresses will generally do best with a firm, flat, and non yielding support system underneath it (that provides support that is similar to the floor) and it's possible that you may have similar issues with other mattresses on the same bedframe as well.

I'm looking forward to finding out what you end up deciding next.

I would also encourage you to talk with any online manufacturer or retailer you are considering on the phone instead of through emails (see post #4 here ).

Phoenix


That's interesting. Dreamfoam recommended slats as a support for my Ultimate Dreams memory foam mattress. They suggested that several slats spaced a few inches apart are the best support system. I was also thinking that a flat support would work better.

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