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Dreamfoam Ultimate Dreams 10" Gel Mattress or 12" Dreamfoam Aria? 03 Jun 2015 14:04 #1

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I am planning to buy a Dreamfoam mattress. I am torn between the Ultimate Dreams 10" Gel Mattress (sold on Amazon, not the Dreamfoam website) and the 12" Aria (sold on both Amazon and the Dreamfoam website). I chatted with Chuck at Dreamfoam who said the Aria is a Medium Firm while the 10" Gel is Firm mattress. Of course, such labels are somewhat subjective. The Aria has 4 inches of 4 lb. memory foam over an 8 inch base; Base on both is 1.5 lb, I believe. the 10" mattress has 3 inches of 4 lb. memory foam over a 7 inch base. I do not know if the ratio of memory foam to base is significant. I like the Tempurpedic Rhapsody Breeze and the Tempurpedic Contour Elite in terms of firmness. Any suggestions? Sleep occurs on back, side, and stomach. Thanks.

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Dreamfoam Ultimate Dreams 10" Gel Mattress or 12" Dreamfoam Aria? 03 Jun 2015 15:43 #2

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Hi Sleepy and Searching,

I am planning to buy a Dreamfoam mattress. I am torn between the Ultimate Dreams 10" Gel Mattress (sold on Amazon, not the Dreamfoam website) and the 12" Aria (sold on both Amazon and the Dreamfoam website). I chatted with Chuck at Dreamfoam who said the Aria is a Medium Firm while the 10" Gel is Firm mattress.


Just for reference ... all the Dreamfoam mattresses can be purchased through the Dreamfoam site (even if they aren't listed) so you can take advantage of their 10% discount and their 45 day comfort guarantee.

There is more about the most important parts of the "value" of a mattress purchase in post #13 here that can help you make more meaningful comparisons between mattresses but you are the only one that can feel what you feel on a mattress and there are too many unknowns, variables, and individual preferences and sensitivities involved to be able to use a formula or for anyone to be able to predict how a specific mattress will feel to you or to make a specific suggestion or recommendation about which mattress or combination of materials and components would be the best "match" for you in terms of PPP (Posture and alignment, Pressure relief, and Personal preferences) based on specs (either yours or a mattress) or "theory at a distance" that can possibly be more accurate than your own careful testing or personal sleeping experience (see mattress firmness/comfort levels in post #2 here ).

They both use 4 lb memory foam over a 1.5 lb base layer so they would be closely comparable in terms of durability so the best way to choose between them would be based on your conversation with Dreamfoam and which of the two firmness levels you think you would prefer.

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Dreamfoam Ultimate Dreams 10" Gel Mattress or 12" Dreamfoam Aria? 31 May 2017 10:46 #3

Hi Phoenix,
I was just looking at the dreamfoam aria. Would you suggest that for higher bmi's?

Thanks!

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Dreamfoam Ultimate Dreams 10" Gel Mattress or 12" Dreamfoam Aria? 31 May 2017 13:55 #4

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Hi Ari,

I was just looking at the dreamfoam aria. Would you suggest that for higher bmi's?


The first suggestion I would make would be to talk with Dreamfoam on the phone about the Aria. They will know more than anyone about which of their options will most likely be the best "match" for different BMIs and sleeping styles based on "averages" and the more information you can provide them the better you will help them to help you make the best possible choice.

The Dreamfoam Aria uses a 6” 1.8 lb polyfoam core, above which is 1” of 4 lb memory foam, above which is 3” of 4 lb gel memory foam. Dreamfoam makes mattresses that use high quality materials for their budget range and have great value, but I would also be aware with a higher BMI that it may also be worth considering higher density materials unless budget is the most important criteria because this would also increase the cost of a mattress. There are some good foam density guidelines in post #4 here where I expound a bit upon this. Post #3 here also has more information and suggestions about heavier weights.

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Dreamfoam Ultimate Dreams 10" Gel Mattress or 12" Dreamfoam Aria? 31 May 2017 15:08 #5

Thanks Phoenix :)
I have read the guidelines.
I cannot find a memory foam bed that meets the requirements and relieves pressure points. I just cannot sleep on a slab.

Big box stores use low quality materials but it seems most bed in a box make beds lower in quality also . For those of us with a higher bmi that is.

I cannot believe there is no bed for me. I am not the size of a house this is ridiculous :(

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Dreamfoam Ultimate Dreams 10" Gel Mattress or 12" Dreamfoam Aria? 31 May 2017 17:23 #6

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HI Ari,

I cannot find a memory foam bed that meets the requirements and relieves pressure points. I just cannot sleep on a slab.


I’m not sure what you mean by “sleeping on a slab”. Higher density does not equate to “harder” foam in polyfoam.

Big box stores use low quality materials but it seems most bed in a box make beds lower in quality also . For those of us with a higher bmi that is.


Every brand has their target demographic - some choose to make good quality products in a budget range, others premium, some less durable. While it is true that most of the larger brands tend to use lower quality materials, not all do, and there certainly are companies producing higher-quality memory foam mattresses. Post #12 here has some of the better online memory foam options of which I am aware.

Realize that a 1.8 lb poly foam core of a higher ILD can still be a quite durable material.

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Dreamfoam Ultimate Dreams 10" Gel Mattress or 12" Dreamfoam Aria? 31 May 2017 17:44 #7

No no that wasn't what I meant by slab :). I meant that so far I have seen or slept on too many weak links or beds so hard they hurt

What would the ild be for a higher quality base foam of 1.8? Some of these sales people don't even know what an ild is

Thanks Phoenix!

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Dreamfoam Ultimate Dreams 10" Gel Mattress or 12" Dreamfoam Aria? 31 May 2017 18:02 #8

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Hi Ari,

Thank you for the clarification. I understand.

A mid-30s or up ILD is a common firm rating for a polyfoam core.

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Dreamfoam Ultimate Dreams 10" Gel Mattress or 12" Dreamfoam Aria? 31 May 2017 18:13 #9

Hi Ari,

Thank you for the clarification. I understand.

A mid-30s or up ILD is a common firm rating for a polyfoam core.

Phoenix


Thanks Phoenix! I have not seen anything like that but I will keep looking, if you spot something please point it out!
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Dreamfoam Ultimate Dreams 10" Gel Mattress or 12" Dreamfoam Aria? 01 Jun 2017 10:19 #10

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Hi Ari,

Thanks Phoenix! I have not seen anything like that but I will keep looking,


There are plenty of polyfoam core products using firm cores like this. Not all manufacturers disclose ILDs and consider that proprietary information, and to most people looking for a mattress it only adds to the confusion and is not a specification of quality but more of a comfort spec.

if you spot something please point it out!


I’m sorry, but I can’t work as a personal mattress concierge and report back to individuals about particular specifications as I come across them. I only have the time to comment upon queries presented here in the forum.

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