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I don't get it, why is my foam cushion sofa more comfortable than my new Latex mattress? Help! 25 Jan 2015 09:07 #1

I received my new 13000 all natural Talalay latex mattress from Sleep EZ a little over 3 weeks ago. The first few nights it felt great, but has been getting worse every night since. The first 5 minutes lying on my back feels fine, but then I start to feel uncomfortable pressure points on my shoulder blades and gluteus. If I try lying on my side, my shoulder starts to hurt, and my arm goes to sleep. When ordering my mattress, Sleep EZ recommended I go with split layers of: Extra firm, firm, medium, soft, based on my height and weight. I'm 5' 8" and a muscular 165. What's weird is, when I wakeup in the morning, I'm not feeling the pressure points. Also as noted in my subject line, I don't feel any uncomfortable pressure points while lying on my foam cushion sofa.

Does latex generally take time to break in, or have I just not adjusted to my new mattress yet? I figured I give it 4 weeks, before rearranging the layers. But the mattress does feel plenty soft as it is. Not sure what my next move is.

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I don't get it, why is my foam cushion sofa more comfortable than my new Latex mattress? Help! 25 Jan 2015 10:55 #2

Hi gme109,

The first 5 minutes lying on my back feels fine, but then I start to feel uncomfortable pressure points on my shoulder blades and gluteus. If I try lying on my side, my shoulder starts to hurt, and my arm goes to sleep. When ordering my mattress, Sleep EZ recommended I go with split layers of: Extra firm, firm, medium, soft, based on my height and weight. I'm 5' 8" and a muscular 165. What's weird is, when I wakeup in the morning, I'm not feeling the pressure points. Also as noted in my subject line, I don't feel any uncomfortable pressure points while lying on my foam cushion sofa.


I can't feel what you feel and I don't know the specifics of the materials in your couch so there isn't a way for someone to "diagnose" the reasons for your symptoms or how your couch compares with your mattress with any certainty outside of some trial and error and detective work that involves testing different layers to see how they affect you but your couch is most likely firmer than your mattress (it's designed to support the more concentrated weight of sitting) and the symptoms you are experiencing on your back may be from alignment issues that involve some tight muscles and/or ligaments being stretched out of the alignment that they are used to.

Post #2 here has more information about the more common symptoms that people may experience on a mattress and some of the most likely reasons for them that may be helpful with some of the "detective work" that may be necessary and there are also some suggestions in post #2 here that may be helpful as well.

Does latex generally take time to break in, or have I just not adjusted to my new mattress yet? I figured I give it 4 weeks, before rearranging the layers. But the mattress does feel plenty soft as it is. Not sure what my next move is.


There will be an initial break in period and adjustment period for any new mattress that can take anywhere from a few days to a few months (depending on the mattress and the physiology of the person and on how different your new mattress is from your old one) but if you are waking up in the morning "symptom free" (when your muscles have had the chance to stretch and relax over the course of the night) then it's quite possible that you are still adjusting to your new mattress and you may just need more time.

You can also try "firming up" your comfort layer by exchanging the soft layer for the medium layer in your mattress to see how this affects you. You can also "firm up" the deeper support of your mattress by exchanging the firm layer with the medium layer to see how this affects you as well.

Either way though ... the first suggestion I would make (outside of time) is to talk with SleepEZ so they can provide you with some suggestions based on their many years of experience as well.

Phoenix
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I don't get it, why is my foam cushion sofa more comfortable than my new Latex mattress? Help! 28 Jan 2015 07:01 #3

Thanks Phoenix, I appreciate the reply. I would also add that Sleep EZ has been great to work with through the whole process, from ordering to followup. After consulting with them they suggested reducing the firmness, to help alleviate pressure points. I first tried soft, soft, firm, extra firm, but quickly determined it was too soft. I then tried soft, medium, medium, extra firm, which felt pretty good, so I slept using this configuration for few nights. Although there were no uncomfortable pressure points on my back or side, I did feel like there was some compromise with support and proper alinement while lying on my side. Also there is some concern that if the mattress was to become any softer a few years down the road, proper support may become an issue while lying on my back as well.

My previous mattress was latex, and although it used some less than idea materials in the mix, it had a design feature which I think was beneficial, the use of polyurethane foam between the support and comfort layer, used for zoning, which helped in getting the proper combination of support and pressure relief. I'm now thinking I may need to look for a latex mattress that uses different densities for zoning. I thought I recalled one of your recommended mattress companies that had this feature, but I don't remember which one.

Because of my concern of this mattress not working out, I tried a few Tempurpedic mattresses locally. I spent quite a bit of time lying on a Coud Luxe, which seemed to offer not only great support, but no pressure point problems. But there is the downside of memory foam which I've never liked, too hot, and not very responsive, making it difficult to roll out of the dent you're lying in.

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I don't get it, why is my foam cushion sofa more comfortable than my new Latex mattress? Help! 28 Jan 2015 09:31 #4

Hi gme109,

Although there were no uncomfortable pressure points on my back or side, I did feel like there was some compromise with support and proper alinement while lying on my side.


If your alignment was compromised then you would feel "symptoms" of some type when you wake up in the morning. If you don't experience any discomfort, pain, or other "symptoms" then your alignment is most likely fine.

Also there is some concern that if the mattress was to become any softer a few years down the road, proper support may become an issue while lying on my back as well.


While all foam materials will gradually become softer over time and there will be a gradual loss of comfort and support over time with every mattress you buy ... latex is the most durable of all the foam materials and this is much less likely to become an issue than with other types of materials or mattresses. Latex mattresses have a reputation of being the most durable types of mattress you can buy and in some cases can last decades. Component mattresses such as yours also have the advantage of being able to replace individual layers if one of the layers softens or breaks down before the others (usually the upper layer) or if your needs and preferences change over time (which is common) without having to replace the entire mattress.

My previous mattress was latex, and although it used some less than idea materials in the mix, it had a design feature which I think was beneficial, the use of polyurethane foam between the support and comfort layer, used for zoning, which helped in getting the proper combination of support and pressure relief. I'm now thinking I may need to look for a latex mattress that uses different densities for zoning. I thought I recalled one of your recommended mattress companies that had this feature, but I don't remember which one.


I personally wouldn't anticipate issues or a requirement for zoning until it becomes clear that you need it based on your actual sleeping experience because zoning can either be helpful, detrimental, or neutral depending on how the specifics of the zoning scheme "fits" your body type and sleeping positions. There is more about zoning in post #11 here and the posts it links to.

Two of the members here (Flobeds and Reverie) sell mattresses that have customizable zoning systems.

For now though I would stay focused on your next step and take one incremental step at a time rather than thinking too far ahead or "theorizing" too much.

Phoenix
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I don't get it, why is my foam cushion sofa more comfortable than my new Latex mattress? Help! 01 Feb 2015 06:58 #5

Hi gme109,

Although there were no uncomfortable pressure points on my back or side, I did feel like there was some compromise with support and proper alinement while lying on my side.


If your alignment was compromised then you would feel "symptoms" of some type when you wake up in the morning. If you don't experience any discomfort, pain, or other "symptoms" then your alignment is most likely fine.

Also there is some concern that if the mattress was to become any softer a few years down the road, proper support may become an issue while lying on my back as well.


While all foam materials will gradually become softer over time and there will be a gradual loss of comfort and support over time with every mattress you buy ... latex is the most durable of all the foam materials and this is much less likely to become an issue than with other types of materials or mattresses. Latex mattresses have a reputation of being the most durable types of mattress you can buy and in some cases can last decades. Component mattresses such as yours also have the advantage of being able to replace individual layers if one of the layers softens or breaks down before the others (usually the upper layer) or if your needs and preferences change over time (which is common) without having to replace the entire mattress.

My previous mattress was latex, and although it used some less than idea materials in the mix, it had a design feature which I think was beneficial, the use of polyurethane foam between the support and comfort layer, used for zoning, which helped in getting the proper combination of support and pressure relief. I'm now thinking I may need to look for a latex mattress that uses different densities for zoning. I thought I recalled one of your recommended mattress companies that had this feature, but I don't remember which one.


I personally wouldn't anticipate issues or a requirement for zoning until it becomes clear that you need it based on your actual sleeping experience because zoning can either be helpful, detrimental, or neutral depending on how the specifics of the zoning scheme "fits" your body type and sleeping positions. There is more about zoning in post #11 here and the posts it links to.

Two of the members here (Flobeds and Reverie) sell mattresses that have customizable zoning systems.

For now though I would stay focused on your next step and take one incremental step at a time rather than thinking too far ahead or "theorizing" too much.

Phoenix


I'm not sure what my next move is now. At first, the soft, medium, medium, extra firm configuration seemed to be working out. But I'm now experiencing the same pressure point problems, or what I think are pressure points, along with waking up with low back pain.
Maybe I'm on the wrong track, and what I think are pressure points, is really a alinement problem. I tried moving over to the other half of my layered bed, which is now, soft, firm, firm, extra firm, but that didn't seem to help either.

I'm really at a total loss as to what to try next.

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I don't get it, why is my foam cushion sofa more comfortable than my new Latex mattress? Help! 01 Feb 2015 10:43 #6

Hi gme109,

I'm really at a total loss as to what to try next.


What did SleepEZ suggest you try next when you talked with them?

If you can list the specific combinations you have tried and how long you tried each of them along with a very specific description of how your experience changed with each one of them relative to the one before it and the others you have tried it may also "point to" some clues that may be helpful.

Phoenix
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I don't get it, why is my foam cushion sofa more comfortable than my new Latex mattress? Help! 01 Feb 2015 11:02 #7

Hi gme109,

I'm really at a total loss as to what to try next.


What did SleepEZ suggest you try next when you talked with them?

If you can list the specific combinations you have tried and how long you tried each of them along with a very specific description of how your experience changed with each one of them relative to the one before it and the others you have tried it may also "point to" some clues that may be helpful.

Phoenix


They said, and it makes sense, every time you switch layers around, it's like a new mattress, and you need to adjust to it, so give it more time.

I spent 3 weeks with soft, medium, firm, extra firm. Felt great for a few days, then my shoulders and gluteus became sensitive pressure points, which got worse with each day. Forth week I changed layers to: soft, medium, medium, extra firm. Felt good for a few days, then the same pressure points started hurting, along with a stiff back in the morning.

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I don't get it, why is my foam cushion sofa more comfortable than my new Latex mattress? Help! 01 Feb 2015 11:17 #8

Hi gme109,

I spent 3 weeks with soft, medium, firm, extra firm. Felt great for a few days, then my shoulders and gluteus became sensitive pressure points, which got worse with each day. Forth week I changed layers to: soft, medium, medium, extra firm. Felt good for a few days, then the same pressure points started hurting, along with a stiff back in the morning.


If I'm understanding you correctly you have tried two combinations so far ... is that correct?

Also if I'm understanding correctly you had some initial pressure points with both both of these combinations when you went to sleep at night but this was gone when you woke up in the morning but the difference with the softer configuration was that you had some back pain in the morning that you didn't have with the first combination. Is this also correct?

What is SleepEZ currently suggesting that you try after you tried the second combination?

Phoenix
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I don't get it, why is my foam cushion sofa more comfortable than my new Latex mattress? Help! 01 Feb 2015 11:31 #9

Hi gme109,

I spent 3 weeks with soft, medium, firm, extra firm. Felt great for a few days, then my shoulders and gluteus became sensitive pressure points, which got worse with each day. Forth week I changed layers to: soft, medium, medium, extra firm. Felt good for a few days, then the same pressure points started hurting, along with a stiff back in the morning.


If I'm understanding you correctly you have tried two combinations so far ... is that correct?

Also if I'm understanding correctly you had some initial pressure points with both both of these combinations when you went to sleep at night but this was gone when you woke up in the morning but the difference with the softer configuration was that you had some back pain in the morning that you didn't have with the first combination. Is this also correct?

What is SleepEZ currently suggesting that you try after you tried the second combination?

Phoenix


Yes two combinations so far. The first for 3 weeks, the second for 1 week. I briefly tried, like for 10 min. soft, soft, firm, extra firm, but decided it was too soft. I also briefly tried the current configuration on the other side of my bed, soft, firm, firm, extra firm, and decided its too firm.

Yes pressure points with both configurations, which seemed to mostly go away by morning. However now, with the second configuration, I'm waking up with a still back.

Sleep EZ said to give the second combination more time, but I think they were unsure what the next move would be.
Any softer than what I'm trying now would lack proper support.

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I don't get it, why is my foam cushion sofa more comfortable than my new Latex mattress? Help! 01 Feb 2015 11:44 #10

Hi gme109,

Sleep EZ said to give the second combination more time, but I think they were unsure what the next move would be.
Any softer than what I'm trying now would lack proper support.


The next move would depend on what happens after you give the second combination a little more time so it's always a good idea to be "uncertain" about future changes until you have a good indication of how your body responds to the current one. The only way to know whether a combination provides good primary and secondary support (and pressure relief) is based on your actual sleeping experience and the "symptoms" you experience on each combination.

It sounds like you may still be going through an adjustment period if some of your "symptoms" are gone in the morning.

The most effective approach is a slow and incremental "one step at a time" approach that lets your body adjust slowly and assesses the differences between your "symptoms" on each combination as a reference point and "pointer" to the next.

Phoenix
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