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Out shopping and really like the Serta iSeries...... 04 Jan 2015 13:29 #16

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Hi SMCK,

www.amazon.com/gp/product/B007TBZU3U/ref...1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER
Seems to list all the specs for the their foam but the low star reviews are all from 1 year owners claiming that impressions are forming.


I'm not sure where you are reading about all their specs because their description is missing most of the specs for the foam layers including the mygel memory foam, the 3" of "pressure relief" foam, and the base foam but they do mention that the middle layer is 3 lb memory foam which in combination with the other missing layer specs (which are also likely to be in a lower density range) would be enough to make me very cautious about this mattress and I would avoid it unless the only lower quality/density layer was the 1.5" of 3 lb memory foam.

Ultimate Dreams seems to have high reviews everywhere including here but long term they all seem to go down:
www.amazon.com/gp/product/B006FLUIB4/ref...1&smid=APCUWEOU23BHI
Really liked this option; but the high rate of sinking mentioned in the comments.


I would be very cautious about using reviews as a meaningful source of information but you can read more detailed comments about this (which would also apply to any similar mattress) in post #2 here .

Tuft & Needle has changed its foam recently?www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00QBZ25SS/ref...1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER


Yes ... and you can read more about the specific in posts #2 and #6 here and the rest of the same topic.

It seems to me that all foam mattresses are great for a year or so and then turn south; most reviews do not disclose the weight of the reviewer so that could be another factor in the purchase price.


This would depend entirely on the specifics of the mattress and the type and quality/density of the "foam" (latex and memory foam and polyfoam are all "foam"). Again ... I would be very cautious about using mattress reviews (either positive or negative) as a particularly meaningful source of information and research (see post #13 here ).

They also talked about anything that is vacuum packed to become an issue later on down the road; some recent DreamFoam buyers had been talking about their mattresses not inflating all the well as well. So is dreamfoam stock piling at this point and then dropshipping?


Their mattresses that are stocked and fulfilled by Amazon may be compressed and stored for longer than the mattresses they fulfill themselves but either way it's not likely to be long enough to be an issue with the durability of the materials.

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Out shopping and really like the Serta iSeries...... 07 Jan 2015 19:03 #17

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Went to a local independent store in Warrenton called Mattress Authority www.mattressauthoritywarrenton.com/
To look at their setup specifically their Body Tech Mattress lineup.
Mattresses felt good but were cheap (cheaper than I think they should be).

Owner wasn't in and the saleperson on duty didn't know the exact specs of the foam layers and told me to call back tomorrow once the owner is back in.

All the Body Tech Mattresses are made by Mattress Tech of NC in Thomasville NC. Have you ever heard of them?
Found them online under: www.carolinamattressguild.com/
And plenty of posts all over the board including thishttps://www.themattressunderground.com/mattress-forum/general-mattresses/11389-mattress-search-in-the-dc-metro-area.html#15174




Sadly the spec sheets are bland as everywhere:





Salesguy mentioned that they sell more Body Tech Mattresses than anything else and that he has one for his son. Forgot to ask him what he is sleeping on.

Also went to sears and checked out a Simmons BeautyRest


But then again no specifics on what foam is used and nor did the sales people now.

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Out shopping and really like the Serta iSeries...... 07 Jan 2015 22:03 #18

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Hi SMCK,

Unfortunately (as you mentioned) none of the information you listed says about the quality of the layers and components inside the mattress and without this information it's not possible to make any meaningful comments about the quality of the materials in any mattress or make meaningful comparisons to other mattresses. It would be safe to assume though that the polyfoam is on the lower end of the quality/density range.

Mattress Tech Enterprises isn't the same manufacturer as Carolina Mattress Guild (which went bankrupt in Dec, 2014 and closed their business) although they are/were both based in Thomasville, NC. Mattress Tech has a very limited website and there is a list of their trademarks here that they make for various retailers including Mattress Warehouse/Sleephappens (Timeless Bedding and Cheswick Manor), Mattress Authority (Timeless Bedding), and Boscovs (Euro Tex). None of them provide any meaningful information about the quality/density of the materials in their mattresses.

As you probably know ... I would strongly suggest avoiding the Simmons (unless you can confirm the quality of the materials in their mattresses) because of the low quality foam that they use in their comfort layers. I have seen some airfeel foam lower than 1 lb density and some aircool memory foam as low as 2 lb density (which are both very low quality/density materials).

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Out shopping and really like the Serta iSeries...... 08 Jan 2015 19:03 #19

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Phoenix,

called the owner earlier today and he confirmed that the CMG is not the manufacturer. Looked up both and they are 3 miles apart all in the same area which is the furniture assembly village it seems.

Going back to the store and asking them about the specifics on the warranty and exchange procedure (if needed).
Will also try to call the manufacturer tomorrow and see what they say.

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Out shopping and really like the Serta iSeries...... 17 Jan 2015 17:56 #20

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Update: we went back to the independent store in Warrenton and purchased the BodyTech Dover Firm mattress. It's a traditional coil spring with a cooling gel layer up top. Order to delivery had taken a week. Price was just slightly above IKEA heggedal and the mattress felt better and had a better "warranty".

Still waiting for the log bed sadly so it's setup like this for now:

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Out shopping and really like the Serta iSeries...... 17 Jan 2015 18:29 #21

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Hi SMCK,

Did you find out the type and quality/density of the foam layers (so you can confirm there aren't any weak links in the mattress)?

If you did it would be great if you could list them on the forum for the benefit of any others that may be considering the same mattress.

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Out shopping and really like the Serta iSeries...... 17 Jan 2015 18:31 #22

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Sadly not. No specs so I'm sure it's a cheapo mattress. There will be a review in the near future to see how it's wearing.

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Out shopping and really like the Serta iSeries...... 17 Jan 2015 19:10 #23

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Hi SMCK,

A review that is sooner than a few years won't say much about the durability of the materials in the mattress or the mattress as a whole (unless it's exceptionally low quality) but if you are sleeping well and "symptom free" after the break in and adjustment period then it would at least confirm that you made a suitable choice in terms of PPP.

I'm looking forward to any feedback you have the chance to share although I normally wouldn't suggest that anyone purchase a mattress without confirming the quality of the materials inside it.

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Out shopping and really like the Serta iSeries...... 23 Jan 2015 04:05 #24

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One thIng that I have learned during this mattress buying experience is to try to identify the materials used. However most manufacturers are guarding their materials a secret for most parts it seems. So while it might make absolute sense to get that information it is nearly never available.

Log bed also arrived.

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Out shopping and really like the Serta iSeries...... 23 Jan 2015 10:36 #25

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Hi SMCK,

One thIng that I have learned during this mattress buying experience is to try to identify the materials used. However most manufacturers are guarding their materials a secret for most parts it seems.


Unfortunately that's certainly true with the larger manufacturers that dominate the industry. The worst part is that perhaps not surprisingly ... the manufacturers that keep the quality of their materials a secret and tend to seel their mattresses based on "stories" also tend to use the lowest quality materials.

Log bed also arrived.


Thanks for the picture ... your bed looks great :)

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