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FIRST TIME MEMORY FOAM PURCHASE. WHICH ONE TO CHOOSE? 22 Jul 2014 09:20 #1

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Hi folks, ive been sleeping on a coil spring for my whole life and i know its time to switch. But the only thing making it difficult is my budget. I cannot afford those 1500 dollar name brand memory foam mattresses, so I'm looking to buy online. There seems to be many great ones online, but the reviews are so contradictory. One person will say too soft and one will say too firm.

also, should i go thicker or thinner? is it true that 10" will be softer than a 12?

I have kinda broken it down to a few options here. Please give me your input..

BRENTWOOD 10" GEL FOAM
www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00F7S6FE0/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=AOUM669GEHO1R

NIGHT THERAPY 10" GEL FOAM
www.amazon.com/Night-Therapy-MyGel%C2%AE-Premium-Mattress/dp/B007TBZW4C

SLUMBER SOLUTIONS 10" GEL FOAM
www.overstock.com/Home-Garden/Slumber-Solutions-Choose-Your-Comfort-10-inch-Queen-size-Gel-Memory-Foam-Mattress/8599816/product.html?refccid=T4JQUWVSTPE2I3KO3D64FJ2LEI&searchidx=34

If you have any other recommendations for my price range, please help.


I am a back and side sleeper. I don't like the sinking in feeling. I prefer it to be firm for support, but soft on top.

THANKS IN ADVANCE

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FIRST TIME MEMORY FOAM PURCHASE. WHICH ONE TO CHOOSE? 22 Jul 2014 11:08 #2

Hi ttran, that seems a bit high priced for memory foam ($1500) unless it's tempur brand or something. Not sure what your budget is or what size you're looking for (king, queen etc). Contradiction on firmness levels for a certain mattress would probably be due to people's ideals and perceptions rather than major differences in the product itself. Firm for one person may be too soft for another. Typically thicker mattresses are softer if they're the same material but that may not hold true. Using the brands you mentioned, if Brentwood used a softer base layer foam and Night Therapy used a firmer base foam layer, the Brentwood could actually be softer even if it's thinner than the Night Therapy. It's hard to get the details of their foams a lot of times, density and firmness. Even if they disclose the density, it won't tell you how firm or soft it is. You could have 3 different brands with the same construction in layers - say a 9" base foam and 3" memory foam on top for 12" and if all 3 use different firmness base foam, they'll all be different.

You mentioned you didn't like the sinking in feeling, so not sure any of those mattresses would suit you since they're all memory foam. Regardless of subtle deviations in firmness of the memory foam, that's what memory foam is designed to do. Starts off firm and with body heat it will 'relax' and allow you to sink into it, conforming to your body. You may want to head to a mattress store and try some various types, memory foam, latex etc to find out which style you're happy with. If you like memory foam, but just don't like the deep sinking, you might try to find one that has a thinner memory foam layer on top so you get more of the base foam support. Many of those brands make one model though like a one size fits all, so if their firmness doesn't work for you there's not a whole lot of altering it. In other words, there isn't a Night Therapy 10" gel foam soft, medium, firm.

Another option that may be worth checking out is an all poly foam mattress by Dreamfoam called a 12 in 1 here . There's no memory foam (no sinking), has a zippered cover and 3 pieces of good quality foam (2lb density). It allows you to rearrange the layers at home to find a firmness that works best for you. Poly foam would still be soft on top but without the slow sinking of memory foam. You might want to ask Phoenix to be sure, I think being a forum member here you can get a free pillow bonus with a Dreamfoam amazon purchase. He may have other suggestions if you prefer to stick with memory foam, but of those vendors you mentioned there's no way of telling how firm or soft they would feel to you.

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FIRST TIME MEMORY FOAM PURCHASE. WHICH ONE TO CHOOSE? 22 Jul 2014 12:55 #3

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hey brass, thanks for the reply. I completely get where your getting at which is why it is so hard to buy a mattress online. But everyone locally just seems to be way overpriced. When i say the sinking in feeling, I mean like a really soft top. I've laid on a few memory foam mattresses and I love the way it feels. I guess some just have a more plusher top?

I love the mlily serenity mattress, but it is out of my price range.

I will take your advice though on the top layers thickness.

The last option does have a soft, medium, and firm option. So I might try that. But as of right now, I am leaning towards the night therapy because a lot of people say the brentwood is too soft

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FIRST TIME MEMORY FOAM PURCHASE. WHICH ONE TO CHOOSE? 22 Jul 2014 13:06 #4

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That dreamfoam looks very cool, but is it cheap foam pieces that you are switching in and out?

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FIRST TIME MEMORY FOAM PURCHASE. WHICH ONE TO CHOOSE? 22 Jul 2014 14:56 #5

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Hi ttran,

The first place I would start your research is the mattress shopping tutorial here which has all the basic information, steps, and guidelines that you will need to make the best possible choices ... and know how and why to avoid the worst ones.

I would be very cautious about all of the mattresses you are considering and most importantly I would always make sure you know the quality/density of all the foam that is inside any mattress you purchase (see this article ).

You can read more about the Brentwood mattresses in this topic and in this topic as well.

Night Therapy is one of the Zinus brands and you can read a little more about them in post #31 and #32 here along with post #2 here . A forum search on "Night Therapy" will also bring up more information about them as well including this post which would be a typical experience with lower density or less durable materials.

Slumber Solutions is a little better option than the first two you mentioned and they are more transparent and list the density of their layers in the Overstock description. They say they are US made but they don't say whether the mattress is assembled in the US from Chinese foams or if the foam itself is made in the US. Their 3.5 lb memory foam is also a little lower density than the durability guidelines I would suggest using ( see here ) but overall they are "not bad" although there are better quality/value options available to you IMO.

Some of the manufacturers that make some lower budget memory foam or polyfoam mattresses that may be worth considering are listed in post #2 here . If a latex or latex hybrid mattress is also something that you are interested in considering then posts #3 and #4 here include some of the lower budget latex and latex hybrid mattresses that I'm aware of although these tend to be in a higher price range than less costly materials like memory foam or polyfoam. There is more about how latex compares to memory foam in post #2 here .

There seems to be many great ones online, but the reviews are so contradictory. One person will say too soft and one will say too firm.


This is also completely normal because firmness and softness are very subjective and relative to the body type, sleeping positions, and sensitivity of the person along with what they are used to sleeping on. A mattress that feels "too firm" for one person can feel "too soft" for the next. The most important part of the "value" of a mattress is how well it matches your specific needs and preferences in terms of PPP (Posture and alignment, Pressure relief, and Personal preferences) and there are only two ways to know whether a mattress is a good match for you. The first of these is your own careful and objective testing using the testing guidelines in the tutorial post which is the most reliable of all. If you can't test a mattress in person then the most reliable way to know if a mattress is a good match for you is a more detailed conversation on the phone with a knowledgeable and experienced manufacturer or retailer that has your best interests at heart and can help you choose which of their mattresses is likely to be the most suitable for you (see mattress firmness/comfort levels in post #2 here ). No matter what the cost or quality of a mattress if it's not suitable for you to sleep on then it would have little value to you regardless of how well it works for anyone else.

If after a more detailed conversation you still aren't confident that a particular mattress is a good match for you then the return or exchange policy and any costs involved would also be an important part of the "value" of a mattress purchase so you can use your own sleeping experience and perceptions to decide if a mattress is suitable for you (regardless of what anyone else may think about the same mattress) and if it isn't then you would still have options to return or exchange it. There is also more about the most important parts of the "value" of a mattress purchase in post #13 here .

As Brass also mentioned ... if you don't like the feeling of sinking in or sleeping "in" a mattress then memory foam ... especially in thicker layers ... may not be the best choice for you and a more resilient material that has a more "on" the mattress feeling (such as polyfoam or latex) may be a more suitable choice.


should i go thicker or thinner? is it true that 10" will be softer than a 12?


The thickness of a mattress is only one of several factors that affects the firmness or softness of a mattress but it's not the most important one (see post #4 here ). Every material (such as memory foam) has firmer and softer versions and this along with the thickness of the softer comfort layers will also have a bigger effect than the thickness of the mattress itself. In other words an 8" mattress can be much softer than a 12" mattress that uses different types of materials and has a different design. Overall I wouldn't pay nearly as much attention to the thickness of a mattress as the other factors that can affect the firmness/softness of a mattress. Once again ... besides testing a mattress in person, the only way to have reliable information about the softness or firmness of a mattress relative to other mattresses that are sold by the same manufacturer or retailer would be a more detailed conversation on the phone with someone that was experienced and knowledgeable and where helping you choose a mattress that was suitable for you was more important than just selling you anything they could.

Overall I would follow the steps in the tutorial post, do some local testing to see which types of materials or mattresses you tend to prefer, and make sure you know the quality of all the materials in any mattress you are considering so you have the best possible chance of buying a mattress that is a good match for you in terms of PPP and all the other parts of your personal value equation that are most important to you.

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FIRST TIME MEMORY FOAM PURCHASE. WHICH ONE TO CHOOSE? 22 Jul 2014 18:24 #6

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FIRST TIME MEMORY FOAM PURCHASE. WHICH ONE TO CHOOSE? 22 Jul 2014 18:35 #7

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Slumber Solutions is a little better option than the first two you mentioned and they are more transparent and list the density of their layers in the Overstock description. They say they are US made but they don't say whether the mattress is assembled in the US from Chinese foams or if the foam itself is made in the US. Their 3.5 lb memory foam is also a little lower density than the durability guidelines I would suggest using ( see here ) but overall they are "not bad" although there are better quality/value options available to you IMO.


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what better quality/value options mattresses do you have in mind? please suggest some so i can look into them before my purchase. As of right now, I am leaning towards the slumber solutions because I dont know else would be better for the price

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FIRST TIME MEMORY FOAM PURCHASE. WHICH ONE TO CHOOSE? 22 Jul 2014 18:42 #8

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Hi ttran,

what better quality/value options mattresses do you have in mind? please suggest some so i can look into them before my purchase. As of right now, I am leaning towards the slumber solutions because I dont know else would be better for the price


My last reply included this ...

Some of the manufacturers that make some lower budget memory foam or polyfoam mattresses that may be worth considering are listed in post #2 here . If a latex or latex hybrid mattress is also something that you are interested in considering then posts #3 and #4 here include some of the lower budget latex and latex hybrid mattresses that I'm aware of although these tend to be in a higher price range than less costly materials like memory foam or polyfoam. There is more about how latex compares to memory foam in post #2 here .


..which includes links to some of the better lower budget options I'm aware of.

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FIRST TIME MEMORY FOAM PURCHASE. WHICH ONE TO CHOOSE? 22 Jul 2014 18:53 #9

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Hi ttran,

www.wayfair.com/Eclipse-Perfection-Rest-...OS10GEL-XEC1207.html

this one looks pretty good 3.8lbhttp://www.wayfair.com/Eclipse-Perfection-Rest-10-Gel-Memory-Foam-Mattress-WYF-MOS10GEL-XEC1207.html


I would want to know the density of the polyfoam base layer ... especially with only an inch of memory foam above it (see the guidelines here ). With such a thin layer of memory foam in the comfort layers this mattress would most likely be quite firm because you will be close to and feel much more of the firmer support layers in the mattress. It also only has an inch of memory foam (which is a very small amount) which is one of the reasons it's in a much lower budget range since there isn't much in the way of more costly materials in the mattress.


or
www.wayfair.com/Sleep-Innovations-Inc.-1...-95625-SINC1006.html


This doesn't include any of the foam quality information you would need to assess whether the mattress has any weak links or make meaningful comparisons to other mattresses (see this article ).

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FIRST TIME MEMORY FOAM PURCHASE. WHICH ONE TO CHOOSE? 22 Jul 2014 19:16 #10

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Hi ttran,

what better quality/value options mattresses do you have in mind? please suggest some so i can look into them before my purchase. As of right now, I am leaning towards the slumber solutions because I dont know else would be better for the price


My last reply included this ...

Some of the manufacturers that make some lower budget memory foam or polyfoam mattresses that may be worth considering are listed in post #2 here . If a latex or latex hybrid mattress is also something that you are interested in considering then posts #3 and #4 here include some of the lower budget latex and latex hybrid mattresses that I'm aware of although these tend to be in a higher price range than less costly materials like memory foam or polyfoam. There is more about how latex compares to memory foam in post #2 here .


..which includes links to some of the better lower budget options I'm aware of.

Phoenix



gotcha sorry. So i guess your saying fork out a hundred or two for a much better quality mattress like this one

10" gel dreamfoam
www.amazon.com/dp/B009SQK2CI/ref=cm_sw_su_dp

or this 10" dreamfoam latex (dont know much about latex. i will have to research on that)
www.amazon.com/dp/B00CP7UDSA/ref=cm_sw_su_dp

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