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Mattress protector for really heat sensitive sleep 07 Jun 2014 18:06 #16

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Hi levander,
I'm not sure what you are asking or suggesting here but I had a business plan put together that I hoped would eventually support my family before I even started the site. As much as I love what I do ... I don't think anyone could spend the hours I do at anything for free and still be able to support their family (unless they had another source of income which I don't). It took a couple of years to get there and I realized from the beginning that it would take time but thankfully it has reached that point.


I'm still reading the rest of what you wrote, but wanted to comment here real fast. I've got no problem with you monetizing this site. It's important you maintain you're integrity and not just hawk products that are no good. But everything you write reeks of integrity. I see no even hints at conflicts of interest with regards to what you've written. Many businesses reach a point where it becomes more about the business interests than anything that has to do with the customer, at which point the customer should find another business. But this site is obviously a labor of love. Your far from that point these days and don't even seem headed in that direction.

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Mattress protector for really heat sensitive sleep 07 Jun 2014 18:21 #17

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Hi levander,
The wool they use (which is described as Shropshire in the listing but their site says they use Merino) is a finer and softer wool than some others who use courser wool for their mattress pads or toppers so they will maintain their resiliency a little more and use finer wool for their comforters.


So coarser wools maintain their residency longer and offer a firmer sleeping surface? It sounds like I'm looking for a coarser wool than the Merino that Sleep and Beyond is using.....

But I won't know for sure until I get the stuff here and try it...

Rethinking....

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Mattress protector for really heat sensitive sleep 07 Jun 2014 18:48 #18

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We'll, Dahlia's Natura mattress pad that I have as #1 in my OP was made out of Natura's proprietary Smart Wool. Which in Phoenix's post #3 here is Merino wool with a special treatment to make it washable...

And Dahlia's Natura mattress pad was too firm for her, so maybe it's okay for me?

I just put in an email to Natura trying to verify what Phoenix said in that post. I also asked them if the treatment they put on the Merino really firms it up or not... Their site says they'll respond in 2 business days... maybe I'll call them Monday.

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Mattress protector for really heat sensitive sleep 07 Jun 2014 19:08 #19

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And now I've got an email in to Sleep & Beyond asking them if they're using Merino or Shropshire in that really big mattress pad (topper) that ai'm now thinking about also buying...

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Mattress protector for really heat sensitive sleep 07 Jun 2014 23:18 #20

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Well, Sleep & Beyond got back to me pretty quick, and on a Sunday too. The rest f this post is there response:

Our website will be going under maintenance and does not have most of our new products on it.
We now have two separate wool collections: Merino Wool and Washable Wool (Shropshire)
Both of our product lines are free of VOCs, arsenic and other harsh chemicals used in conventional bedding as they are composed of natural fibers: wool and cotton.
The difference comes down to whether or not it is "certified organic" - which is the highest step to being close to completely free of chemicals.


Below is a comparison between the two:

1. Washable Shropshire Wool Collection

Fabric: 100% natural cotton percale
Fill: 100% washable Shropshire wool
Products: comforters, pillows, 0.5" mattress pads, 1.5 " mattress toppers

Advantage
Machine washable. Use cold water, no agitation on gentle cycle. Air dry only.
It undergoes a Eco Standard Bio-Wash where most of the natural oil called lanolin gets stripped vs. our Organic merino wool that has more oil left and is non-washable.
Eco-Friendly Dry cleaning recommended with limited moisture and Air Dry option.
Please note: All natural fibers will shrink to some extent, usually 3-6%
Free of VOCs, harsh chemicals, and arsenic.

Disadvantage
Very slight wool odor that will disappear within a few days.

2. Organic Merino Wool Collection

Fabric: 100% organic cotton sateen
Fill: 100% pure Merino Wool, WOOLMARK and USDA Organic certified.
Products: comforters, pillows, 1.5" mattress toppers

Advantage
Has passed stringent organic standards to have the products free of pesticides, herbicides, insecticides and other harsh chemicals.Free of VOCs, harsh chemicals, and arsenic. Great story of merino wool and its benefits.

Disadvantage
Not machine washable. Use washable duvet cover, protector or dry clean/spot clean.
Slight wool odor that will dissipate over time.

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Mattress protector for really heat sensitive sleep 07 Jun 2014 23:25 #21

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Hi Doug,

Thanks for posting their reply and their comparisons. I've added a link to your post to Sleep & Beyond's description in the wool topper post :).

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Mattress protector for really heat sensitive sleep 08 Jun 2014 22:29 #22

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So I just bought the St Dormeir wool mattress protector from Flobeds. For all the reading around I've done, that's the most basic well-respected product I'd need, being a heat sensitive sleeper...

I decided against the Sleep & Beyond competitor for that product because even though it's machine washable, they recommend not putting it in the dryer. I wash my mattress protectors every two weeks when I do my sheets. And I don't see myself bother to air dry those things that often.

Now I'm looking at other products, for variety of sleeping surfaces.

These are the two I'm looking at also getting:

Suite Sleep Organic Cotton Stretch Knit Mattress Pad - this was #3 in the OP. There's a popular CozyPure competitor to this product. But it's a lot more expensive than this one on the CozyPure web site, and I can't find any resellers with a discounted price. I think CozyPure themselves is the only one that sells their products. They have their own physical retail stores.

Sleep & Beyond myPad - I'm half thinking I'll end up returning this one. The photo on that product page, the pad don't look like much. But it's inexpensive for a wool mattress topper and the material it's made out of sound good. So I'll try it before getting something more expensive. It's machine washable, but they don't recommend putting it in the dryer... I'm thinking I just wouldn't wash it as much as I would a mattress protector. I'm considering this more of a mattress topper.

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Mattress protector for really heat sensitive sleep 08 Jun 2014 22:40 #23

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I think this is the last thing I'm wondering about...

If I get a topper, like the wool one in the last post. Am I going to want to put a mattress protector on top of it? A mattress protector like the Suite Sleep one from the last post, that's thin but doesn't have a waterproof membrane so it doesn't make me hot.

A machine washable wool topper (even if you can't machine dry it), a mattress protector on top of that may not be as important. And even a thin cotton mattress protector on top of a wool topper, I think it would interfere with the absorbent properties of the wool (which keep me cool and is a huge reason I'm interested in wool).

But eventually I'm going to get a latex topper too (to switch out with the wool topper occasionally, for variety). Even if it the latex topper has a zip-around encasement, that thing is going to be a bitch to get off. So I think I'd want a thin mattress protector in this case... Because it would be a lot easier to clean the mattress protector than the topper zipped encasement...

That's part of why I'm thinking it's a good idea to go ahead and get the thin Suite Sleep protector, future upgradeability for use with other toppers I'll buy in the future... But I may be way off. I don't know.

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Mattress protector for really heat sensitive sleep 08 Jun 2014 23:40 #24

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Hi levander,

If I get a topper, like the wool one in the last post. Am I going to want to put a mattress protector on top of it? A mattress protector like the Suite Sleep one from the last post, that's thin but doesn't have a waterproof membrane so it doesn't make me hot.


That would be the most common and "normal" approach yes so your protector can help protect the wool topper from body fluids and skin cells that you normally release each night as well as any "accidents" that may happen.

There are some people that may prefer to sleep directly on a wool topper but that wouldn't be the norm and may reduce the useful life of the wool topper although wool does have a natural self cleansing property when you air it out in the sunshine.

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Mattress protector for really heat sensitive sleep 09 Jun 2014 02:44 #25

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Okay, thanks Phoenix! Looks like the versatility of a thin (no water-proof membrane) mattress protector is a really good idea for me. I'm busy. All day today, but hopefully at the latest tomorrow I'll order the rest of that stuff.

There's a 15% sale at The Clean Bedroom is part of why I'm ordering extra.

I'll let you know how it goes. And I'm going to change my settings on this board so that if anyone PM's me, I'll get an email. In my last absence between mattress purchases, it looks like I missed one from a user named Gabriel. But if I can change my settings, won't happen again...

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