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Five steps to your perfect mattress - overview 29 Nov 1999 22:00 #1

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Steps to Discovering and Buying your Perfect Mattress

By now you will hopefully have read the overviews which talk about the different types of mattress cores, the different types of comfort layers, how the different layers and ways of combining them can affect your choices, and finally how your own unique needs and preferences play a very important role in your overall comfort and satisfaction. You will likely be developing some preferences of your own and are probably anxious to begin testing this new knowledge in real life. That means it is time to begin the last leg of the journey towards your perfect mattress which is the actual field testing of mattresses.

Being an informed consumer.

If you have read the overviews and perhaps some of the more detailed pages as well, you will quickly discover that you already know much more than the vast majority of salespeople you will encounter. You will also quickly discover that when you begin to ask questions based on what you now know, that you will get some very "strange" reactions as many of them will realize that they are about to lose a sale and have been trained to apply certain "techniques" before you walk out of their store. Now that you are no longer dependent on the information they will give you and have a way to find out the truth behind it... this part of your journey can even be somewhat fun and certainly far less intimidating and confusing.

Now you have the basic information you will need, there are 5 simple steps to discovering and then buying your perfect mattress. We have separated them into separate steps because what most people will quickly find is that if they don't test each element separately, the different and sometimes conflicting information and terminology for each step can become confusing very quickly in a haze of information overload, false information coming at you faster than a machine gun, and the difficulty of remembering exactly what that mattress 2 stores ago really felt like. An example of this is using "firm" to describe a mattress. You may want a firm support layer with a very soft comfort layer and yet as soon as many salespeople hear the word firm you will not even be shown any mattresses with softer comfort layers. There are many other examples of how a single word (such as "supportive") has many meanings depending on which part of a mattress you are talking about and the knowledge of the person you are dealing with.

The quick version of these 5 steps are included here.

More details or specifics are included in a separate page for each in this section for those who need it.

If you'd like more details about any of these steps, then the separate pages for each are there to help you... and as you know, our forum is always open.

We hope that when you have found and purchased your mattress, that you will also share your experiences with us and others in the forum and help them find their own version of their perfect mattress.

 

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Five steps to your perfect mattress - overview 04 Dec 2011 05:26 #2

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Are there any factory direct outlets in Northern California?

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Re: Five steps to your perfect mattress - overview 04 Dec 2011 14:24 #3

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Re: Five steps to your perfect mattress - overview 04 Dec 2011 17:19 #4

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Hi Gailby,

If you let me know what city you live in I'd be happy to provide any suggestions I know about within about 50 to 100 miles of where you live. I try to include manufacturers within a certain radius (depending on the number of choices available in an area) so that others who read a thread don't get overwhelmed by choices or discouraged because they are too far away.

Thanks Eagle007 for referencing the Sacramento link as well :)

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Five steps to your perfect mattress - overview 05 Dec 2011 14:38 #5

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I live in Southern Illinois (Carbondale). Where are the good places in the area? I know of none.

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Re: Five steps to your perfect mattress - overview 05 Dec 2011 21:43 #6

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Hi Christopher,

Some of the better choices in the Carbondale, IL area include ...

www.sterlingmattress.com/ Herrin, IL. Factory direct manufacturer. I have talked with Mike the owner and he makes a wide range of mattresses including innerspring mattresses with higher quality polyfoam and construction methods that make the mattress more durable. Also carries latex mattresses and memory foam. They are also a member of this site which means I believe they compete well with the best in the country . He is "mattress people" and is committed to making a good mattress at a good price. He can customize a mattress according to the needs of each person and has been making mattresses for almost 20 years. There are some comments about them in this thread

www.campbellmattressco.com/ Cape Girardeau, MO. Wholesale Manufacturer. Makes mainly innerspring and memory foam mattresses, no latex but uses good quality materials. A call should give you some local retail outlets that carry them.


A little further away in the St Louis area some of the better options or possibilities include ...

www.maplewoodcustombedding.com/ St Louis, MO. Factory direct manufacturer. Makes a range of mattresses including innerspring, memory foam, and a two sided Dunlop latex set with good value.

meyerbedding.com/ St. Louis, MO. Factory direct manufacturer. Makes mainly two sided innerspring/polyfoam mattresses using higher quality polyfoam. Will use other materials including latex on request and can also make custom constructions. Have talked with Scott and he is also what I call "mattress people". His family has been manufacturing mattresses for over 100 years.

www.mattressconceptsstl.com/ High Ridge, MO. Another local manufacturer that makes their own two sided traditional innerspring mattresses that use higher quality materials (1.8 lb polyfoam and higher) with good quality and value. I talked with Clinton the owner and he is knowledgeable, experienced, and helpful and is well worth a visit. They also carry some other brands for mattress types that they don't build themselves including Sleep Harmony memory foam mattresses. Also what I call "mattress people".

www.verlo.com/locations/stores/MO St. Charles, MO (and others in the area). Regional factory direct manufacturer. Makes a wide range of mattresses of all types including innerspring, memory foam and latex. They didn't carry any latex mattresses on their floor at this location when Iast talked with them but they do carry the rest of the line (you can check to see if this is still the case).

www.stlbeds.com/ St. Louis, MO. Retail outlet. Carries a range of mattresses including innerspring, memory foam, and latex including Pure Latex Bliss, Savvy Rest, Anatomic Global, Glideaway, Symbol, Campbell (including 2 sided), and others. I would avoid the major brands here but they have good selection and would be a good place to test various layering combinations in latex. Some of these brands may have better than average value.

sleepsolutionsus.com/ Belleville, IL. Carries Pure Talalay Bliss latex mattresses and Dutch Craft which makes some better quality and value mattresses.

mattressandfutonoutlet.com/ St Charles, Ballwin, Florissant, MO and Fairview Hts, IL.. They also carry Pure Talalay Bliss mattresses along with Dreamline, Therapedic, and SleepInc mattresses.

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Re: Five steps to your perfect mattress - overview 06 Dec 2011 16:35 #7

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Thanks for your help, Phoenix. (This is Christopher) I will take a look at their websites and see what I think.
What do you think of Custom Sleep Design? I have spoken with someone their, and he explained that their mattresses are completely talalay latex, including the support cores. He explained to me that talalay can be make to be as supportive as dunlop, though dunlop does not have the ILD range that talalay has. Is talalay as durable as dunlop as a support core? Their prices are astronomical though, and I'm wary of paying that much for a mattress I cannot lay on first. I also have no idea of their warranties and the warranty better be great for a full sized mattress costing $2800. I guess you pay the price for custom.
I'm going to keep looking around, but this has been a very discouraging process thus far. :/

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Re: Five steps to your perfect mattress - overview 06 Dec 2011 20:19 #8

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Hi Christopher,

Custom Sleep Design is one of the members of this site . I invite certain manufacturers to become members of this site when I have come to know them well enough to know that they are among the highest quality and value manufacturers in North America and of course when they have come to know me well enough to know that they share the values of the site. (NOTE: they have unfortunately gone out of business)

In the case of Custom Sleep ... they produce a premium mattress which is a higher price than many other factory direct manufacturers when their value is measured in "inches of latex" but their greatest value is in producing what I believe is the most individually customized mattress available. Their zoning system and how they "fit" a mattress to each person or couple is IMO the most accurate that I know of. It involves taking certain measurements for each person who will be using the mattress and then custom designing each mattress and the zones to each individual which of course is more time consuming and labor intensive than other less customized mattresses. Like other custom manufacturers that also sell online ... they offer layer exchanges (rather than mattress exchanges which are far more expensive and difficult) after purchase in case the characteristics of the mattress need to be changed.

Bob is also a former VP of Latex International which produces much of the Talalay latex used in North America and is very knowledgeable about the qualities of latex. A warranty is not nearly as important as knowing the quality and durability of the materials in your mattress because warranty issues do not include the softening or degrading of the foam which is the biggest long term issue with lower quality materials and construction methods. Warranty issues usually involve actual defects in construction (not the performance issues of lower quality materials or comfort issues) and these defects will usually show up very early in the life of a mattress.

So they are a great option for those who are looking for an individually customized mattress that uses the highest quality materials and where custom designing to the individual weight, body shape, and sleeping positions is a big part of the "value" they are looking for.

Talking to and/or visiting some of the factory direct manufacturers near you will certainly help avoid the typical confusion that comes from looking for a mattress made by a major manufacturer or typical chain store or mass market outlet. Sometimes knowing who to believe is just as important as knowing what to believe :).

One of the most important parts of this site is to help people know who to believe and to provide enough basic knowledge about mattress materials and construction that it becomes easier to know when someone really knows what they are talking about. Better outlets and salespeople will focus on accurate and transparent information about materials and the construction of a mattress that research will confirm rather than focusing on telling you a story that they hope you will believe (without doing the research that will expose the stories for what they are) or using sales techniques that create a sense of urgency or false perceptions about the quality of a mattress to discourage meaningful comparisons and to inflate their profit margin.

Someone who knows what they are talking about and will help you make meaningful comparisons based on materials and construction is your best friend when you are mattress shopping. Finding them and avoiding those who don't or won't is more than half the battle.

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Re: Five steps to your perfect mattress - overview 27 Dec 2011 00:30 #9

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Do you know of any in Louisiana .

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Re: Five steps to your perfect mattress - overview 27 Dec 2011 17:25 #10

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Hi Pooswa,

There's not a lot of factory direct manufacturers in most of Louisiana that I know of but there are a few in Baton Rouge.

www.wholesalemattressfactory.com/ Baton Rouge, LA. They have been in business for a very long time and make all types of mattresses using any material "the old fashioned way" with good quality and value. they will custom build whatever a customer may want. Open and honest and what I call "mattress people".

www.capitalbed.com/ Baton rouge, LA. Another "old time" factory direct manufacturer who sells mainly wholesale to retail outlets across the state but will sell retail to a customer who walks in their door. Also carries a range of different types of mattresses on their floor including latex, memory foam, and traditional mattresses. Also very open and honest and "mattress people".

www.istroumamattressfactory.com/ Baton rouge, LA. Yet another "old time" smaller (2 man) manufacturer who has been in business for decades. They also manufacture a range of mattresses of using higher quality materials including traditional innerspring/polyfoam, memory foam, and latex hybrids.

EDIT: There is one other factory direct manufacturer that I discovered and talked with today in Lafayette ( see post #179 here ).

They are www.facebook.com/pages/Irwins-Mattress/184156004978427 or www.irwinsmattress.com/ and I talked with the 3rd generation of family ownership Scott and they are making mattresses of all types including memory foam, talalay latex, and innersprings and use better quality materials and construction methods than you will see in typical chain stores and major brands. I guess Baton Rouge isn't the only local manufacturing happening in Louisiana.

If you are not near any of these and let me know the city you live in I may know of some better retail outlets near you.

NOTE: There is an updated Baton Rouge list in post #191 here .

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