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Latex "pushback"? 08 Mar 2014 04:29 #1

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I love my new natural latex bed. It's a teensy bit on the soft side which is fine - it causes me to sleep more on my side than my stomach, which is better for my neck, body and airway anyway. I get good sleep on it.

I alway start sleeping on my stomach then about halfway through the night I get on my side. This morning after I had been on my side for about 3 or 4 hours maybe, my neck started hurting, like it was being "pushed up" too much.

The solution could be something as simple as needing a flatter pillow but I'm not sure that would work.

Is this what "latex pushback" is?
Does anyone have any experience with this kind of problem?
If so, how is it remedied?

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Latex "pushback"? 08 Mar 2014 08:17 #2

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Hi LookingNow,

Is this what "latex pushback" is?


Pushback is a term that many people use to describe resiliency or the "springiness" of a material. Innersprings, polyfoam, and latex are all examples of resilient materials or components and have different degrees of "pushback" or springiness. Innersprings are the most resilient and latex is the most resilient of the foam materials.

This morning after I had been on my side for about 3 or 4 hours maybe, my neck started hurting, like it was being "pushed up" too much.

Does anyone have any experience with this kind of problem?

If so, how is it remedied?


This sounds like a pillow issue where the thickness of your pillow isn't keeping your head and neck in good alignment on your side (or perhaps too high on your stomach). If your pillow is a suitable height for stomach sleeping then it may be too low for side sleeping and the reverse could also be true.

Depending on whether the pillow is too thick or too thin it would generally be remedied with a different pillow that was either thicker or thinner. Side sleeping generally needs a thicker pillow for good alignment because the distance between the head and neck and the mattress is larger while stomach sleeping generally needs a much thinner pillow or no pillow at all to keep the head from being held up too high. If you sleep in both positions then a pillow that can be "scrunched" to change the height or can be used in both sleeping positions is important for good alignment.

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Latex "pushback"? 08 Mar 2014 10:00 #3


Depending on whether the pillow is too thick or too thin it would generally be remedied with a different pillow that was either thicker or thinner. Side sleeping generally needs a thicker pillow for good alignment because the distance between the head and neck and the mattress is larger while stomach sleeping generally needs a much thinner pillow or no pillow at all to keep the head from being held up too high. If you sleep in both positions then a pillow that can be "scrunched" to change the height or can be used in both sleeping positions is important for good alignment.

Phoenix


My review on Dreamfoam/Brooklyn Beddings pillows ---> Here . IMO these are some great pillows at a great value. They have a nice variety and you should be able to find one to fit your needs. I would recommend you start with the combo half latex/half memory foam its a great combination and after a month or so of use seems to have broken in and even better now.

Shop their amazon site store where they even offer an adjustable latex, a pillow that comes over stuffed where you can remove the filling to adjust it to your personal likings.

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Latex "pushback"? 08 Mar 2014 11:13 #4

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Yes, I believe it is a pillow issue.
I like the idea of a pillow I can remove stuff from and adjust. How brilliant!
Thanks.

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Latex "pushback"? 08 Mar 2014 16:10 #5

I bought one of each, in my quest for the right pillow, kinda neat having a variety. Believe it or not, though the combo is my favorite, i at times prefer the others depending how much, and where my discomfort is. As Pheonix has mentioned many times before, the pillow will play a role in your posture and alignment, so its important to find the right one....or a variety to choose from ;) .

I thought about (and actually searched the internet for it) how cool would it be to have company online where you could order all the various pieces of a pillow and build it yourself. Being able to choose from, synthetic vs natural cases, and memory, latex, down, etc and having a wide variety to choose. Buy the stuffing by the pound and then stuff it to your likings.

I’m hoping and actually waiting for Dreamfoam to come out with an adjustable memory foam, so I can buy one of each (latex and memory foam) and combine the two pillows in one and stuff it to my likings so one side is latex and if I flip it the other is memory foam. Unlike the combo where the two stuffing’s are mixed together into one case.

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Latex "pushback"? 08 Mar 2014 17:03 #6

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And the Mattress Surgery Crew thought THEY were clever?! ;)

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Latex "pushback"? 08 Mar 2014 19:46 #7

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I’m hoping and actually waiting for Dreamfoam to come out with an adjustable memory foam, so I can buy one of each (latex and memory foam) and combine the two pillows in one and stuff it to my likings so one side is latex and if I flip it the other is memory foam. Unlike the combo where the two stuffing’s are mixed together into one case.


I use the duplex pillow that has two separate compartments, one on each side. I originally had millet hull on one side and buckwheat on the other, but found that I prefer buckwheat on both sides. Having two compartments helps keep the buckwheat from shifting. You may want to get one of these and stuff it with the foam or your preference.

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Latex "pushback"? 08 Mar 2014 20:07 #8

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Hi TandL,

I thought about (and actually searched the internet for it) how cool would it be to have company online where you could order all the various pieces of a pillow and build it yourself. Being able to choose from, synthetic vs natural cases, and memory, latex, down, etc and having a wide variety to choose. Buy the stuffing by the pound and then stuff it to your likings.


Here are a few sources of DIY pillow materials or stuffing that I know of (although there are probably many more) ...

www.cozypure.com/miscellania/diy-materials-and-fabrics

tmu.best/ckxwt/product-category/supplies/ (including inner and outer covers)

www.whitelotushome.com/all-products/wholesale-fibers/

www.foamorder.com/accessories.html

openyoureyesbedding.com/

www.ecochoices.com/ecobedroom/bedding/pillowprotectors.html cotton/wool cover

45thstreetbedding.com/product-category/pillows/

www.cozypure.com/organic-pillows/zippered-organic-cotton-pillow-protectors zippered pillow protector

www.landsend.com/products/pillow-protectors-set-of-2/id_160895 zippered pillow protectors

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Latex "pushback"? 08 Mar 2014 20:44 #9

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Did you know Spindle offers adjustable shredded latex pillows as well? Neal explained to me that they come overfilled and then you can remove the fill to your comfort level. The thing is, i recall you saying you were chemically-sensitive, so you should know that they use a combo of their natural and synthetic latex inside the pillow. Perhaps one could be customized for you...i dont know.


Ive had this problem with my neck too and i have found it always to be a pillow issue. Like you, i fall asleep in one position(my side), then end up on my back. So, in trying many different type of pillows, i discovered some side pillows have so much loft, that my head is too high when im on my back. If the pillow is too low or mushy when on my side,, then my neck will definitely start hurting. It can be a real nuisance! I have found using a medium loft pillow thats firm is working for me right now bc it isnt too huge for when im on my back and it being firm, it keeps my head up to be in alignment when on my side. I know stomache sleepers require flatter pillows so thats tough to combine with side sleeping! I myself am considering ordering a pillow with my order from Spindle bc i used one at there and i found it relatively easy to reshape and use as i needed, although it was limited use of course.


Good luck!

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Latex "pushback"? 08 Mar 2014 21:04 #10

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LookingNow, I noticed in another thread where we discussed the firmness level of your new mattress, you described the feeling of wanting to crawl to the side of the bed? What did you mean by this?

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