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Memory foam topper 02 Mar 2014 11:02 #1

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Hello, I'm new to the site.

So I'm looking for a memory foam topper. Last year I got one from the Foam Factory. 4lb density. It was doughy for a week or so, then started losing it's memory. It had to be ice cold in my room for it to regain a memory hardness.

Why is this so difficult?

I do like their Terrycloth Cover and will probably get again.

I'm going to get 5lb either 2" or 3". Can anyone recommend a good manufacturer?

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Luke

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Memory foam topper 02 Mar 2014 13:14 #2

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Hi Supravista,

So I'm looking for a memory foam topper. Last year I got one from the Foam Factory. 4lb density. It was doughy for a week or so, then started losing it's memory. It had to be ice cold in my room for it to regain a memory hardness.


Unfortunately when cost is the main consideration in a purchase or you are dealing with a supplier that is part of what I call the "race to the bottom" then you will often get what you pay for ... or less. You can read more about Foam Factory / Foam by Mail / FBM (or their other websites) in this thread (I would make sure you read the first 16 posts).

In addition to this ... a topper choice can be difficult because the same topper will feel and perform differently depending on the person and the mattress you are using it on because how a mattress/topper feels and performs depends as much on the body type, sleeping style, and subjective preferences of the person and the design of the mattress you are using it on as the topper itself.

In the case of memory foam it can also be particularly tricky because there are hundreds of types of memory foams that each have a different type of feel, performance, and response, even if they are the same density (see post #9 here and post #8 here ) and if the density includes any fillers then it also may not be a reliable indicator of the quality or durability of the foam.

When you can't test a mattress/topper combination in person before you make a purchase then post #2 here and the posts it links to includes some information, guidelines, and sources that you can use that may be helpful in choosing a topper that is the "best for you" and your individual circumstances.

The knowledge and experience of who you deal with and the guidance they can give you, the accuracy of their descriptions about their products, and any return or exchange policies they offer, can all be among the most important parts of a successful topper purchase.

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Memory foam topper 03 Mar 2014 11:44 #3

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Hi Phoenix,

Thanks for the in depth response. I love the site.

I do understand that it depends highly on preference. I'm just wondering, because I'm purchasing online, which manufacturer has a good 'quality' product (i.e. density as advertised, and memory longevity). Surely some manufactures products that fit that criteria have been observed in this community, I would imagine. What are some specific recommendations?

Thanks for the help!!

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Memory foam topper 03 Mar 2014 12:06 #4

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I'd start with the companies that are listed as members of this site. See which online company sells memory foam topper (I think that there are at least 4 or 5). Each of these companies are transparent and accurate in what they sell. I know that there are others, and you may want to do a forum search.

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Memory foam topper 03 Mar 2014 13:25 #5

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Thanks for the help. I've been eyeing Brooklyn Bedding 2" 5lb topper. I see them listed as a member. Perhaps I'll try that?

Thanks for the help!

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Memory foam topper 03 Mar 2014 15:05 #6

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Hi Supravista,

I do understand that it depends highly on preference. I'm just wondering, because I'm purchasing online, which manufacturer has a good 'quality' product (i.e. density as advertised, and memory longevity). Surely some manufactures products that fit that criteria have been observed in this community, I would imagine. What are some specific recommendations?


It depends on which mattress/topper combination provides you with the best PPP (Posture and alignment, Pressure relief, and Personal preferences) on a specific mattress for a specific person and personal preferences are only one of the "P's". You may "like" the subjective "feel" of a certain topper but the combination of the topper, your mattress, and you may still not provide you with the Support/Alignment or Comfort/Pressure relief you "need" (these are "needs" not "preferences").

There are hundreds of different versions of memory foam and each individual supplier will be more familiar with their own products and how they compares to each other and the other types of memory foam in the market than anyone else(there is more about the differences between different types of memory foams in post #9 here and post #8 here ).

I'm happy to help with "how" to choose but the specifics of "what" to choose will depend on all the many variables that are involved and there isn't a formula or "theory at a distance" than can predict the best choice for you with any certainty.

You can compare the "quality/durability" of a product based on its type and density but that has little to do with the feel and performance of a specific type of memory foam and outside of the guidelines I linked, a conversation with an experienced and knowledgeable online retailer or manufacturer that has your best interests at heart and that can give you good information about what they sell is your best source of guidance. If you are still uncertain after that then their return or exchange policy may also be an important part of your personal value equation . Each person can be very different and what works perfectly for one person may now work well at all for another with a different set of circumstances, needs, or preferences.

While it's a common belief with consumers that there is a "formula" that can predict the "best" choice with some certainty ... there are just too many variables and unknowns for this to be possible and the knowledge and experience of a manufacturer along with their return or exchange policies can be among the most important parts of a successful topper purchase. Once you know how to eliminate the worst choices or the choices that are most likely to be unsuitable for you and you know how to make meaningful comparisons in terms of quality/durability ... then only you can decide on which choice is "best for you".

Outside of the members here (which jankc suggested and which I specifically recommend ) ... the previous link I included in my last reply with the topper guidelines also links to a list of some of the better online topper sources I'm aware of.

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Memory foam topper 03 Mar 2014 15:10 #7

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Much appreciated.

I'm a side sleeper mostly. I do like the doughy response of denser memory foam. I'm going to be getting a Spa Sensations 6'' Memory Foam Mattress, as it's within my budget. The layer specs are as follows:

1.5" memory foam-2.5lb density
4.5" comfort curve air flow HD base layer

1.5" memory foam-2.5lb density is hardly memory foam at all, but I'm hoping it will serve as a decent base for a high quality topper.

That are your thoughts?

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Memory foam topper 03 Mar 2014 17:09 #8

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Hi Supravista,

1.5" memory foam-2.5lb density
4.5" comfort curve air flow HD base layer

1.5" memory foam-2.5lb density is hardly memory foam at all, but I'm hoping it will serve as a decent base for a high quality topper.

That are your thoughts?


I would want to know the specifics of the HD base layer but this mattress already has a significant strike against it with the 2.5 lb memory foam which is a very low quality material and even with a high quality topper (and depending to some degree on the quality/density of the polyfoam base layer) it would likely still soften more rapidly underneath a topper which could lead to the premature loss of comfort and/or support that isn't covered with a warranty. I personally wouldn't consider this to be a good option with or without a topper and for me the "cost" of this type of purchase (outside of the purchase price) would be much too high unless you are one of the fortunate few that can sleep on anything without any symptoms or discomfort (in which case you wouldn't need a topper at all) and you are comfortable with a mattress that isn't likely to maintain it's comfort and support for very long.

I would also tend to choose a mattress that has high odds of working well by itself without a topper because choosing a topper that would work well for you on a specific mattress can be almost as difficult as choosing a mattress and adds a second variable that can be much more difficult than buying a mattress only where there is only one variable to consider.

I personally wouldn't consider a mattress where the quality was this low (even in the lowest budget ranges) and I think you have better options available to you.

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Memory foam topper 03 Mar 2014 18:16 #9

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So if I was to get the 3" 5lb Memory Foam Topper what should I use under it if I was to build one?

Are these specs good for a base? Should there be a transition layer?

www.foamdistributing.com/lux-hq-foam-sheet.html

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Memory foam topper 03 Mar 2014 19:25 #10

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Hi Supravista,

So if I was to get the 3" 5lb Memory Foam Topper what should I use under it if I was to build one?

Are these specs good for a base? Should there be a transition layer?

www.foamdistributing.com/lux-hq-foam-sheet.html


Answering this would require a book on mattress theory and design because there are too many variables and "it depends" in any answer. If you are considering designing your own mattress vs buying a design that already has a track record and is already "proven" in the market or that you can test in person then I would first make sure that you've read post #15 here and the posts it links to so that your expectations of success are realistic and that you are comfortable with some trial and error and any costs that can be involved with the mistakes you may make along the way.

Your own personal testing or experience is the only way to know with any certainty whether a specific mattress design and combination of materials will be suitable for you. Outside of this your best chance of success with designs you haven't tested are more detailed conversations with an online retailer or manufacturer that knows more about the combinations of materials they use in their specific designs than anyone else and/or has a good return policy if the choice you make is not as suitable for your needs and preferences as you hoped for. Post #2 here has more information and some links to some of the sections of the site that may be useful but these are only generic and not specific to any person.

Are these specs good for a base? Should there be a transition layer?

www.foamdistributing.com/lux-hq-foam-sheet.html


I personally don't trust the accuracy of the specs they provide. You can read more about Foam By Mail (FBM or the other names they use) in this thread along with post #2 here and post #2 here .

In general ... 2.8 lb polyfoam would be a good quality and durable material but of course the density or durability of a material has little to do with whether it would make a good choice in terms of PPP because durability and density have little to do with softness or firmness or how a material "feels".

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