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Help-current bed not working out 07 Apr 2013 18:32 #11

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Hi MJ73,

Thanks again Phoenix, i understand everything your pointing out.
I did not mention i asked for solid core, i was worried about the role together feel we've experiened before when we had a spilt mattress.


It's not likely that a solid core vs a split core would make any perceptible difference in most cases but this would also depend on many factors (such as the type of materials, the location of the split, the differences between each side of the split, and the types of materials and layers above the split and on the ticking and quilting of the mattress).

Boy this morning we woke feeling broken, my shoulders are sore and mid back feels like i slept with a brink under it. Im laying as i type, the bed is pushing me midback, does that make sense? Is this part of the adjustment period? Anyone else have this issue?


It could be part of the adjustment period, a symptom of being too firm, or a symptom of being too soft, or an alignment symptom based on how you interact with the specific design of the mattress. The challenge of course is to figure out which it is so that any fine tuning or refinements can change things in the right direction.

I would make sure you have read post #2 here which I linked earlier. Post #3 here and post #6 here and post #6 here and post #7 here may also be worth reading to give you some insights into what may be happening and help you identify what your next "best" step may be.

I think the real issue though stems from here ...

:huh: When I purchased this bed (I've had it set up since Friday 03/29/13) from APMC, I told Ken what I wanted to duplicate: The Pure Latex Bliss-Beautiful.
He sent me a solid medium core (It took 5.5 weeks, after I nagged APMC I didn't have a bed-I was promised 3.5 weeks) which I am confused if it's 32IDL or 36IDL and a 3" 19IDL topper. The bed feels hard to us not like the Beautiful which is soft, springy and sinks slightly. My hubby likes the Beautiful because it relieves his pain.


because it's not possible to "duplicate" another mattress using different layering. When you use different layers to "approximate" the feel and performance of another mattress ... how well the "approximation" succeeds is relative to each person. While there are many "pathways" to a similar outcome (see post #3 here ) ... each one may feel similar to some and not to others. Some people with certain body types or sleeping styles or perceptions may say "it's exactly the same" and other may say "it's completely different". In some cases ... because our memories for the subjective "feel" of a mattress can be so inaccurate ... even the same mattress may feel very different when you've slept on it for a while if the store testing was based more on how it felt rather than more objective testing which tends to be much more accurate (although even here there are no guarantees either). Taking enough time for a mattress to break in can also make a difference.

For example ... your mattress has a very similar top comfort layer to the Beautiful. This alone may be enough for some people to call it "very close" regardless of the rest of the mattress. the Beautiful then has 3" of 24 ILD under the top layer and then a 6" layer of 36 ILD. One possibility to "approximate" the effect of having a soft layer and then a firmer layer under your 3" of 19 ILD would be to use a softer core which would be "in the middle" of the two. an even larger number of people would call this "similar" but there would still be many who didn't. All of this is relative to each person's perceptions and the limitations of the design you are using to approximate another different design.

I personally think that trying to duplicate another mattress can often lead to disappointing outcomes for many reasons and it's much more "accurate" to measure any mattress against more objective standards (see post #2 here ).

In any case ... I think the next steps would be to first give it enough time (and eliminate any obvious possibilities mentioned in some of the links) ... followed with deciding if your goal is to "duplicate" the Beautiful (and your best option here may be to buy the Beautiful itself) or whether your goal is to fine tune the PPP (Pressure relief, Posture and alignment, and personal preferences) regardless of whether this produces exactly the same "feel" as the Beautiful (which also may have produced "symptoms" when you actually slept on it). My personal thoughts are that your own experience would be much more important than trying to "match" your subjective memory of another mattress but of course what is most important for each person is for each of us to decide and there is no right or wrong here.

Hope this helps.

Phoenix
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Help-current bed not working out 11 Apr 2013 12:20 #12

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Hello everyone and morning,
Fortunatly we made it through the tornadoes last night, gotta love St Louis 82 yesterday its now 49, lol.
So we received the 3" topper, what a difference it made, feels like a different bed. I slept very well, only tiny bit sore in middle back. It feels like heaven and am very hopeful it stays this way.

Mary

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Help-current bed not working out 11 Apr 2013 17:25 #13

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Hi MJ73,

That's great news :)

I hope it stays that way as well and if you are feeling the same once you are past the initial adjustment and break-in period of the first 30 days or so (and perhaps sooner) then the odds are very good that it will.

It seems that you ended up very close to the Beautiful layering and design (except for your cover which is higher quality than the Beautiful) and I'm glad to hear you are sleeping well!

Phoenix
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