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Sealy mattress 14 Mar 2013 03:17 #11

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Hi Fiddler,

I am in a similar situation as you in having to choose a replacement of a Stearns and Foster harbor view villa latex mattress. In the research I did, I could not find any Sealy or stearns innerspring model that did not use at least 2-3 inches of cheap poly foam in the comfort layers. I ended up ordering a stearns private vineyard villa latex and a rejuvenite 3 inch 28 ILD talalay topper. Good luck with whatever you decide.


As you know ... I think you made the best choice possible in your circumstances. It's always amazing to me how difficult it is to find a single mattress in their lineup that doesn't use questionable materials in the top layers ... and as you mentioned in your previous post ... how it may not even be available unless you know to ask for it specifically.

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SF River View Firm vs Sealy Embody Insightful 08 Aug 2013 06:50 #12

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Thanks for all the great advice Phoenix.

I am stuck making a decision between the Embody Insightful at $353 upcharge or the SF River View Firm at $890, plus $140 delivery fee. I am nearing the end of the original warranty so this will definitely be my last mattress for quite some time. Is the additional $540 worth the SF River View over Sealy Embody? I need something that will last for the next 8 years so I can stop dumping money into mattresses for a while.

Any input would be appreciated, I just don't want to give Sealy any more money that I need to sleep soundly.

Thanks again.

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SF River View Firm vs Sealy Embody Insightful 08 Aug 2013 14:47 #13

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Hi geearle,

I am stuck making a decision between the Embody Insightful at $353 upcharge or the SF River View Firm at $890, plus $140 delivery fee. I am nearing the end of the original warranty so this will definitely be my last mattress for quite some time. Is the additional $540 worth the SF River View over Sealy Embody? I need something that will last for the next 8 years so I can stop dumping money into mattresses for a while.


This would depend entirely on how well each mattress matches your needs and preferences in terms of PPP (Posture and alignment, pressure relief, and Personal preferences). My guess is that since both of these are fairly firm that you would likely need a topper for both of them (unless your testing confirms that one or both of them work well without a topper). The suitability of a mattress in terms of PPP is just as important as durability because if a mattress is very durable but not suitable for you then you wouldn't be able to sleep on it no matter how durable it was.

The Embody Insightfu l has 3" of smart latex in the top layer which is mostly synthetic latex but is more durable than polyfoam. The Riverview Villa firm has some high loft fiber and then 1" of polyfoam above the smart latex in the comfort and support layers. While both of these would be among the better options for an exchange where you were looking for a base mattress and planned to add a topper for pressure relief and comfort ... the Riverview firm (not cushion firm by the way which is different) has lower quality polyfoam and fiber in the upper layers that would be more subject to softening and impressions over time than the latex in the Insightful so I would give the edge in terms of durability to the Insightful even though it has a lower quality polyfoam support layer.

The risk of a mattress/topper combination is that it can be difficult to choose the best topper unless you have tested them together. If you exchange for a mattress without the topper (and buy the topper elsewhere), then the topper guidelines in post #2 here and the posts it links to will be helpful. The benefit of a topper is that it can be easily replaced if it softens or breaks down faster than the mattress and you can replace it at a much lower cost without replacing the entire mattress.

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