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Aloe Alexis 13 Feb 2013 01:59 #21

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Have you received your Aloe Alexis yet? If so - what has your opinion of it thus far been? Thanks.

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Ultimate Dreams Mattress choices 13 Feb 2013 06:53 #22

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Hi PrincessanthPea,

Thanks for the ongoing updates. Sometimes people have a style of writing that makes it easier for others to really "feel" what they are feeling and your feelings about your mattress certainly shine through :)

I was talking to the person who bought my memory foam mattress unopened- he insisted on putting the 8" mattress on top of his old mattress and box spring which made it about 31" high; somehow he went to do something and fell off the bed so finally he took his old mattress off. He put his old mattress in another room. He states that his shoulder no longer hurts but maybe it is because he fell out of the bed. He says the memory foam is already getting softer too. His only problem is trying to get up and out of the thing.


I know it probably wasn't funny when it happened but I couldn't help but laugh when I read this. Now that's what I call a "monster mattress"!

Thanks again for the updates and I'm looking forward to more of them.

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Ultimate Dreams Mattress choices 13 Feb 2013 16:45 #23

Hi Phoenix.

We slept 4 days on our new Eco Rest latex mattress with my old 2.5" memory foam topper, after initially feeling lack of giving of the mattress alone. Gradually I am get my back pain back - today is as worse as sleeping in my old memory foam mattress that we replaced with this Eco Rest latex mattress. It puzzled me because I sleeted on that 2.5" memory foam topper over my futon mattress for more than a month without back pain.

What seems to me is that this 6" dunlop new mattress does give as a core more than my cotton futon mattress. My husband's weight (200lb) might also contributed to deeper sinking feeling that affected my back and side sleep position. ( I was on futon bad alone for a month to avoid back pain). With our old 12" memory foam mattress we never heard any noise from the flat bed frame but now we do if we toss and turn. So now we are not sure if we should add a few inches harder core material under this mattress (it feels very low now compare to what we had) and if so, what should we get? Or, a thick firm topper will fix this?

Thank you and looking forward to your advice. We can't return this Eco Rest latex mattress so we have to deal with it.

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Ultimate Dreams Mattress choices 13 Feb 2013 21:28 #24

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Hi hubbs,

Gradually I am get my back pain back - today is as worse as sleeping in my old memory foam mattress that we replaced with this Eco Rest latex mattress. It puzzled me because I sleeted on that 2.5" memory foam topper over my futon mattress for more than a month without back pain.


I would remove the memory foam topper and sleep directly on the Eco Rest for now. A topper will work very differently on different types of mattresses underneath them and a futon would typically be much firmer than your Eco Rest. On the Eco Rest ... the 2.5" memory foam topper could be unsuitable for you and allow your hips/pelvis to sink in too far even if it worked on the firmer Futon.

I mentioned in a previous post ...

I would also keep in mind that if you buy a mattress with the idea of adding a topper when you haven't personally tested the combination, it can introduce a variable which may need some trial and error to get it right. It's always better if possible to test the specific combination you plan to sleep on in person rather than just part of it. If a mattress is close to your needs and preferences and just needs some "fine tuning" then this is much simpler than a more drastic change to a mattress that isn't nearly as close to what you want by itself.


So I would take things one step at a time.

I would first sleep on the Eco Rest mattress by itself so that you can adjust to it somewhat or at least find out how it feels and performs for a few nights at least so you can use your experience on the mattress itself to decide on the type of topper that would be most appropriate as your "ideal" combination.

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Ultimate Dreams Mattress choices 13 Feb 2013 22:19 #25

Thanks to everyone for all the useful information. My only decision remaining is whether to get the Amazon version without a zipper for $600 or the Zipper version for $760 (assuming the 5% discount works). I think I'm sold when the next paycheck arrives.

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Ultimate Dreams Mattress choices 14 Feb 2013 00:05 #26

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Hi jjford,

As you know already ... IMO both of these are great value. Just in case you haven't seen it, the main pros and cons between them are in post #2 here (except Brooklyn Bedding mattresses have a return policy and the layer exchange costs are lower than the Eurotop on the Amazon site).

I'm looking forward to hearing about what you decide.

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Ultimate Dreams Mattress choices 15 Feb 2013 06:05 #27

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Phoenix: I forgot to mention one little thing about the person I sold the 8" memory foam mattress to- he is nearly 71 and on the stubborn side. I dare not argue with his logic (!!) of insisting on the triple layering. I think it simply slid too much as he got in and out. I knew it was going to happen ;) When I am feeling better I will be seeing if he needs some kind of pad to cool down the mattress; he says its warm now and it isn't even spring. I just hope he does not turn sorry he bought it from me.

I have been sick, within 24 hours of setting my wonderful new bed up- I gratefully collapsed in it when some sickybug hit me and have been in it ever since, terrific Valentines day- hot toddys, Vicks, cough syrup and bed so I have had a chance to review:
It was for the best to go with the 7 and I think 7 gives just right support and softness. I am sleeping on my side just fine and have no numbness in the hips nor while sitting. I love the lightly doughy feel, no sinking to the bottom (and staying there) Though I am used to being tormented by mostly hard beds I can tell now that I would sink a bit too much in generall had I gone for an 8, I say in general because ...

Due to fibro sensitivity fluctuations and my tendency to pull muscles (groin and Achilles heel are the most recent things) I am thinking of putting a soft topper on one side for sure and oh...one thing I still notice is when on my back there is more pressure on my heels than I would like; I have been dealing with neuropathy (due to 1. Long Term taking of Metformin for diabetes, 2. prior neuropathy and 3. from diabetes itself) so some solution is needed for my feet. The new mattress doesn't make this worse however.

I just talked to bed owners of a brand name PLUSH TOP conventional mattress and they were interested in mine! Why? because it was LOSING ITS PLUMP so quickly. They paid more than twice as much as mine, too and I am told the mattress has a "hump in the middle" I guess I'd better send links.

I don't think anyone would be sorry with this mattress of course but for those used to costlier things in general thats fine but I know many people are pretty much like me, need good sleep.- have tried different mattresses that don't work through ones whole life- on a modest budget and need extra help finding one that suits. I think many of us just think you pick out a bed and get the same kind when you finally wear out the one you have. We think nothing of growing out of the kind of car we drive, changing clothes styles, colors, tastes in music and more - but we get in to the same damn bed!

The dogs give the Ultimate Dreams Mattress in a 7 - all paws UP! The chaweenie stole the latex pillow. And Princess is sound asleep. me too. zzzzz.

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Ultimate Dreams Mattress choices 15 Feb 2013 23:23 #28

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Hi Sleepy1,

Due to fibro sensitivity fluctuations and my tendency to pull muscles (groin and Achilles heel are the most recent things) I am thinking of putting a soft topper on one side for sure and oh...one thing I still notice is when on my back there is more pressure on my heels than I would like; I have been dealing with neuropathy (due to 1. Long Term taking of Metformin for diabetes, 2. prior neuropathy and 3. from diabetes itself) so some solution is needed for my feet. The new mattress doesn't make this worse however.


Something that may be worth considering for the heel pain is a wool topper such as some of the ones in post #3 here . They may just give you the more point specific relief you need without the risk of alignment issues that can go with a softer foam topper and they can reduce shear forces as well (forces that tend to stretch soft tissues). A good quality wool mattress pad or topper is also very ventilating and can be very helpful with these types of issues.

Another type of topper than may help with this is something like the conforma toppers here where there is either a softer heel zone or a taper that can reduce heel pressure.

I don't think anyone would be sorry with this mattress of course but for those used to costlier things in general thats fine but I know many people are pretty much like me, need good sleep.- have tried different mattresses that don't work through ones whole life- on a modest budget and need extra help finding one that suits. I think many of us just think you pick out a bed and get the same kind when you finally wear out the one you have. We think nothing of growing out of the kind of car we drive, changing clothes styles, colors, tastes in music and more - but we get in to the same damn bed!


I think all of this is very true. What is often forgotten is that no matter what the value of a mattress that someone buys ... that what they will end up remembering most about it over the years is how well they slept on it and how long it provided them with quality sleep much more than what they originally paid for it.

Thanks again for all your comments and updates :)

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Ultimate Dreams Mattress choices 20 Feb 2013 14:15 #29

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Hi Phoenix, thank you so much for the suggestions for my sore heels. It seems to me the conforma may work best for a taller and larger framed person who mainly sleeps on their back, I think- I tend to sprawl all over in not-so-conventional free spirited manner and have been seen sleeping diagonally with legs hanging off. but the zone idea is still good and doable.

I could create my own zone of wool construction just across the width of the bed in the lower third. I'm not sure I like the idea of wool over the entire top of the bed.Be nice if they'd sell various topper yardage by the linear foot in convenient widths, haven't seen this idea yet but it sounds great.

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Ultimate Dreams Mattress choices 20 Feb 2013 16:55 #30

Hi Phoenix,
We did sleep on Natura Eco Rest mattress without any topper for a while now and my husband would really prefer to add a topper to be more comfortable as aside sleeper. As for me, trying to sleep most on my side, I have lower back pain only on the right side, but pain is lesser than sleeping on my memory foam mattress. We did add a St. Dormeir Wool Mattress Protector.

I am not sure what the best step to take now - how thick or hard a topper would work for both of us? a wool topper or natural latex topper? What do you think the choices here:

Natura 2nd Organic Comfort Wool Topper Queen
www.organicsleepproducts.com/natura-2nd-organic-comfort-wool-topper-quee2.html

BioSleep Concept Organic Wool 3-Inch Mattress Topper
www.amazon.com/Concept-Organic-3-Inch-Mattress-Topper/dp/B004S2CC34/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_nS_nC?ie=UTF8&colid=38PBFKNM2XV8W&coliid=I5I4SENTNY50W

Plush 2" Talalay Latex Topper Mattress Pad - 100% Natural Latex
www.amazon.com/Plush-Talalay-Latex-Topper-Mattress/dp/B006UTQ7G6/ref=pd_sim_sbs_hg_4

3" Queen Natural Latex Mattress Pad Topper
www.mattresses.net/3-queen-latex-mattress-pad.html

Thank you.

hubbs

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