Prologue -  In November 2012,  Onno Petersen, the founder of The Mattress Underground (TMU), responded to a consumer post with a free-flowing 1400+ word discourse that started with "One of the reasons I started The Mattress Underground....."    Of course, there is more than one reason why Onno started The Mattress Underground, and the post he penned shows us that in several ways.   As a tribute to our founder and chief iconoclast Onno, we have re-created the post in its entirety and without edit, so you can better understand the man, and his passion for integrity, one of the core values in life that continues to evade a large portion of the US mattress industry.  Please enjoy and feel free to comment.......

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HG_Ltd. replied the topic: #2 05 Mar 2019 17:35
with information found on this site I found a good new latex topper

I'm now looking for information on how to choose the right pillow

Do you cover this? Link, please ;) thank you!
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phoenix replied the topic: #3 07 Mar 2019 13:02
Hi HG_Ltd,

Welcome to the Mattress Forum! :).

Great to hear you found a good latex topper, and thanks for the kind words about the information provided on TMU. Regarding selecting a pillow, the situation similar with selecting a mattress, in that there are far too many variables involved to be able to select a pillow that is the perfect fit for you. However, I can certainly make some suggestions that may be helpful.

There are even more options in pillows I think than in mattresses, and most of us have been guilty at one time or another of purchasing some “less than stellar” offerings at department stores. There is a pillow thread here in which Post #3 has many additional links about different materials. Of course many of our trusted members have wonderful pillow portfolios in their product offerings. Please check them out.

The key, of course, is to maintain a more natural cervical/upper thoracic alignment, but not all of us have what many physicians might describe as “normal” curvature in this region.

For sleeping on your side, it is, of course, imperative to maintain a pillow of sufficient enough thickness and substantial enough in filling to not collapse and have your head sink too much laterally. When you sleep on your back as well as your side, you generally want the pillow to be a bit thinner so that you’re not sleeping with too much forward flexion. That is why “shapeable” pillows (ones with filling that can be moved into different levels of thickness) are popular for people who sleep on their side and back. Down, shredded foams (latex, polyfoam and memory foam), buckwheat hulls, kapok, wool, silk, synthetic fibers, and flaxseed are just a few of the offerings in this category. Additionally, many of these styles of pillows are available with an inner casing that allows accessibility to the fill to allow removal of the fill material in order to customize thickness.

One tip for side sleepers is to place a large pillow or body pillow in front of you and rest your free arm on this pillow. This takes some of the stress off of the neck/shoulder complex. Additionally, you may wish to experiment with placing a pillow behind your shoulders when sleeping upon your side. This allows you to lean back slightly against the pillow, effectively abducting your scapula and rolling your shoulder joint forward a bit, and this can also help relieve some stress for you.

In the end, it does come down to quite a bit of experimentation, but you’ll want to be sure that you’re considering a product using more durable materials, and if you’re testing out the product in person, make sure to try it out of the plastic and in an actual pillowcase, as this does impact the overall comfort.

Let me know if you find anything that works for you, or if you have other questions.

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atananbaum replied the topic: #4 18 Jul 2019 04:54
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Sensei replied the topic: #5 18 Jul 2019 09:47
Hey atananbaum,

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